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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #200 on: June 18, 2015, 08:58:13 AM »
@chaimmoskowitz I do think its an empty threat. I dont see how they can prove in a court of law that someone sold AS miles. Unless both the seller & buyer bank with BOFA & there is a check involved or some time of quickpay program if BOFA has one. Just my 2 cents.
That's not even worth 1 lousy AS mile at the published rate  ;)

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #201 on: June 18, 2015, 09:10:06 AM »
Do you disagree? If yes, what is your take on it? How can they prove you sold?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #202 on: June 18, 2015, 09:33:06 AM »
if you still have not closed your cards it may be worth it to pay the fee and then wait till close to 60 days to call and cancel and have them refund the annual fee. it may cause it to show up in the system that the fee was paid

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #203 on: June 18, 2015, 10:35:02 AM »
@chaimmoskowitz I do think its an empty threat. I dont see how they can prove in a court of law that someone sold AS miles. Unless both the seller & buyer bank with BOFA & there is a check involved or some time of quickpay program if BOFA has one. Just my 2 cents.

The burden of proof (if they even need one) is just preponderance of the evidence - that it is more likely than not that you sold points. It's not a really high bar. A few tickets to or from different accounts is probably enough.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #204 on: June 18, 2015, 10:47:54 AM »
How would they know if you booked tickets for friends/family or if you sold the points?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #205 on: June 18, 2015, 10:51:48 AM »
@chaimmoskowitz I do think its an empty threat. I dont see how they can prove in a court of law that someone sold AS miles. Unless both the seller & buyer bank with BOFA & there is a check involved or some time of quickpay program if BOFA has one. Just my 2 cents.
You have it all wrong. They don't need to prove anything. It will be you that will need to take them to court. If it came to that would you lie in court?
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #206 on: June 18, 2015, 11:09:52 AM »
Personally I wouldn't, but a cash transaction I don't see how it can be proven. In either case its not worth the time in court over a few points..

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #207 on: June 18, 2015, 11:20:16 AM »
Personally I wouldn't, but a cash transaction I don't see how it can be proven. In either case its not worth the time in court over a few points..
How about over your $15k bill that they sent to collections, is that worth the time in court?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #208 on: June 18, 2015, 11:42:36 AM »
You have it all wrong. They don't need to prove anything. It will be you that will need to take them to court. If it came to that would you lie in court?
Yes you're right it's on us not them.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #209 on: June 18, 2015, 12:07:35 PM »
am sure most of  us already canceled to avoid fee!

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #210 on: June 18, 2015, 12:15:26 PM »
How about over your $15k bill that they sent to collections, is that worth the time in court?
What 15k bill? The cash price of the ticket?

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #211 on: June 18, 2015, 12:22:12 PM »

What 15k bill? The cash price of the ticket?
Yes.
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #212 on: June 18, 2015, 12:36:54 PM »
Then we should really open a new call center in Israel......
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #213 on: June 18, 2015, 12:37:48 PM »
am sure most of  us already canceled to avoid fee!

Actually, I gladly paid my fees. The statement credit made it well worth it.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #214 on: June 18, 2015, 01:13:49 PM »
FTFY

So can the same be said about charging you for a ticket and sending it to collections if not paid?

Not sure what the ftfy was for. Like I said, the data points all pointed to them not doing clawbacks. Now they do. And it was not entirely unexpected to begin someday.

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #215 on: June 18, 2015, 02:24:32 PM »
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #216 on: June 18, 2015, 04:19:45 PM »
BofA just called me... I got so nervous--it was a survey call about the features. Phew!

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #217 on: June 18, 2015, 07:53:44 PM »
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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #218 on: June 18, 2015, 10:53:37 PM »
BofA just called me... I got so nervous--it was a survey call about the features. Phew!

LOL love it

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Re: ALASKA is shutting down your accounts and taking away points!
« Reply #219 on: June 19, 2015, 11:12:56 AM »
Is this duplicate churning in one day a bofa thing or alaska?
Can I try to Vigin atlantic cards in a day?