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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #220 on: March 13, 2022, 01:51:34 PM »
The breakout time for Iran to develop a nuke is less with no deal. The only way to stop them without a deal is a war.   

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #221 on: March 13, 2022, 01:54:01 PM »

Then Israel should just attack them and leave the US out of it.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2022, 01:55:50 PM »
Then Israel should just attack them and leave the US out of it.

Which LaLa Land have you been living in? Do you really think the small Satan can act and the Big Satan gets left alone?

And collaterally, you really think the Saudis and their oil remain unharmed if Israel wages war on Iran? We aren't living in the 70s or even the early 80s any more.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #223 on: March 13, 2022, 02:10:10 PM »
When watching the video remember who's best interest he has in mind.

The breakout time for Iran to develop a nuke is less with no deal. The only way to stop them without a deal is a war.
He had the best interest of Bibi Netanyahu in mind and this may coincide with the best interests of the state of Israel. If they agree with your assessment then how is that interest advanced by this position?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #224 on: March 13, 2022, 02:11:44 PM »
Which LaLa Land have you been living in? Do you really think the small Satan can act and the Big Satan gets left alone?
The LaLa land I live in sees Israel trying everything they can to get the US to attack over the years.
That is not in the best interest to the US. Since everything Israel does is about "me me me" shouldn't we do the same?
This Ukraine war is showing a different side to Israel and it is not pretty.
And collaterally, you really think the Saudis and their oil remain unharmed if Israel wages war on Iran? We aren't living in the 70s or even the early 80s any more.
Just like Russia, we don't need there oil. Scare tactics don't work.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #225 on: March 13, 2022, 02:15:27 PM »
He had the best interest of Bibi Netanyahu in mind and this may coincide with the best interests of the state of Israel. If they agree with your assessment then how is that interest advanced by this position?
Americans should watch it and understand he does not have the best interest of the US in mind when watching it.
Some might watch it and think they are our friend and based on that will feel they are watching out for "us", not!
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #226 on: March 13, 2022, 02:16:20 PM »


Just like Russia, we don't need there oil. Scare tactics don't work.
If you mean Saudi oil this is untrue at this time.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #227 on: March 13, 2022, 02:17:16 PM »
Americans should watch it and understand he does not have the best interest of the US in mind when watching it.
Some might watch it and think they are our friend and based on that will feel they are watching out for "us", not!
Great but this doesn't address my question at all.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #228 on: March 13, 2022, 02:20:24 PM »
Great but this doesn't address my question at all.
I didn't understand your question then.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #229 on: March 13, 2022, 02:22:24 PM »
I didn't understand your question then.
It is on their common interest that Iran not get a nuclear weapon. Based on your assessment a deal is in Israel's best interest. Why would they be arguing against it?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #230 on: March 13, 2022, 02:25:21 PM »
If you mean Saudi oil this is untrue at this time.
For petroleum imports aren't we below 10%?
2020 shows 7%, the same as Russia.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #231 on: March 13, 2022, 02:28:00 PM »
The LaLa land I live in sees Israel trying everything they can to get the US to attack over the years.
That is not in the best interest to the US. Since everything Israel does is about "me me me" shouldn't we do the same?
This Ukraine war is showing a different side to Israel and it is not pretty. Just like Russia, we don't need there oil. Scare tactics don't work.

I dont think you understand the Ukraine situation from Israel side of things. Russia is Syria itís basically one country. Itís good relations with Russia or at least not antagonizing them is keeping there citizens safe and preventing another war.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #232 on: March 13, 2022, 02:28:41 PM »
It is on their common interest that Iran not get a nuclear weapon. Based on your assessment a deal is in Israel's best interest. Why would they be arguing against it?
Ok got it. Common but not the same. Way higher in Israels interest than the US. That is why Israel wants to destroy their capabilities and the US wants to delay them until something is figured out.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #233 on: March 13, 2022, 02:33:13 PM »
I dont think you understand the Ukraine situation from Israel side of things. Russia is Syria itís basically one country. Itís good relations with Russia or at least not antagonizing them is keeping there citizens safe and preventing another war.
I understand that.

Every country is putting itself at risk by supporting Ukraine. Military supplies are coming through countries like Poland. That is high risk!

You have a country like little Finland being threatened with military action if they join NATO. More than ever they are now looking to join.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #234 on: March 13, 2022, 02:33:35 PM »
For petroleum imports aren't we below 10%?
2020 shows 7%, the same as Russia.
Yes, but the same dynamic applies to the rest of the Persian gulf and that accounts for much more. We definitely can't do without both gulf oil and without Russian oil. That would almost certainly lead to shortages. Even without that, the effects on global markets would be devastating.
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #235 on: March 13, 2022, 02:35:23 PM »


I understand that.

Every country is putting itself at risk by supporting Ukraine. Military supplies are coming through countries like Poland. That is high risk!

Poland has the protection of nato.

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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #236 on: March 13, 2022, 02:36:38 PM »
Ok got it. Common but not the same. Way higher in Israels interest than the US. That is why Israel wants to destroy their capabilities and the US wants to delay them until something is figured out.
How would the lack of a deal destroy their capabilities?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #237 on: March 13, 2022, 02:37:01 PM »
Yes, but the same dynamic applies to the rest of the Persian gulf and that accounts for much more. We definitely can't do without both gulf oil and without Russian oil. That would almost certainly lead to shortages. Even without that, the effects on global markets would be devastating.
There would be pain and suffering. We have enough oil for maybe the next 20-30 years or more?
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #238 on: March 13, 2022, 02:37:56 PM »
Poland has the protection of nato.
You missed part of the quote. Finland does not.  :)
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Re: Iran nuclear deal
« Reply #239 on: March 13, 2022, 02:39:15 PM »
How would the lack of a deal destroy their capabilities?
Lack of a deal will not. So what is left is attack/war.
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