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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2180 on: March 30, 2013, 09:44:11 PM »
If you are married with 1 child, you will get the EIC and Child tax credit which is around $4500 (if you are eligable in the lowest income bracket)

I dont have the exact #'s in fromt of me, but if you report between $9k-$15k basically all you will pay is 15%.

So if you file $10k you will net $3000

You will net the full $4,500 because there is a $11,900 standard deduction you take, plus a $3,800 exemption for you, your wife and each child. So in a 3 person family (assuming married and filing jointly) the first $23,300 of income is exempt from taxes.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2181 on: March 30, 2013, 10:35:15 PM »
You will net the full $4,500 because there is a $11,900 standard deduction you take, plus a $3,800 exemption for you, your wife and each child. So in a 3 person family (assuming married and filing jointly) the first $23,300 of income is exempt from taxes.
But this income is not W-2. So wouldn't you need to pay SS tax?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2182 on: March 30, 2013, 10:41:35 PM »
But this income is not W-2. So wouldn't you need to pay SS tax?

(Mod - this thread should probably be forked)

If so then i'd imagine yes.
(I didn't realize the conversation was about report reporting churning etc. income).

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2183 on: March 31, 2013, 12:53:40 AM »
I don't have any kids. How will that affect me?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2184 on: March 31, 2013, 12:58:41 AM »
I don't have any kids. How will that affect me?
You could get $475 max from the earned income credit.

IF
You'r over 25
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Lived in the US for more than half the year.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2185 on: March 31, 2013, 01:09:12 AM »
You could get $475 max from the earned income credit.

IF
You'r over 25
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Lived in the US for more than half the year.

If its not a W2 you'll be paying more out to SS though.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2186 on: March 31, 2013, 01:15:27 AM »
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Is there a place (website/book) with a "guide for dummies" on all this stuff?

Not looking to learn anything complicated,  just the basics.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2187 on: March 31, 2013, 01:19:06 AM »
There probably is a book Taxes for dummies... But I don't know.

A lot of the info could change yearly.

This has just been something I have done a lot of research on over the past few years

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2188 on: March 31, 2013, 01:22:48 AM »
You can also try taxcaster from turbo tax to get an idea of what's going on.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2189 on: March 31, 2013, 01:41:23 AM »
I'll trade someone.

 I'll teach you how to churn CCs if you teach me about taxes. 


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2190 on: March 31, 2013, 02:29:51 AM »
I'll trade someone.

 I'll teach you how to churn CCs if you teach me about taxes.

+1

Then again, maybe I should just harass my brother...

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2191 on: March 31, 2013, 02:32:29 AM »
Or just pay $50-$100 for a good accountant.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2192 on: March 31, 2013, 02:39:19 AM »
Or just pay $50-$100 for a good accountant.
There are certain subjects I'd like to have basic knowledge in. Taxes is one of them.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2193 on: March 31, 2013, 02:58:06 AM »
There are certain subjects I'd like to have basic knowledge in. Taxes is one of them.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2194 on: March 31, 2013, 08:20:01 AM »
Or just pay $50-$100 for a good accountant.
The accountants that charge $50-$100 to file your taxes are good ones.

They are just people that know how to use turbo tax


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2195 on: March 31, 2013, 08:35:31 AM »
Or just pay $50-$100 for a good accountant.
I feel if you know it yourself you will gain a lot more CMIIAW.


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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2196 on: March 31, 2013, 08:37:47 AM »
@yitzf
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Is there a place (website/book) with a "guide for dummies" on all this stuff?

Not looking to learn anything complicated,  just the basics.
Maybe start a thread in GD? Seems some here have some knowledge on this subject and others want to learn about it.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2197 on: April 03, 2013, 10:17:40 AM »
am I able to transfer available cl from one amex card to another online? can this trigger a fr?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2198 on: April 03, 2013, 05:38:21 PM »
I  have a relatively large amount (>1k)  of blue cash reward dollars, would it be unwise to redeem them all at once?

 Do such redemptions get manually reviewed?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #2199 on: April 03, 2013, 05:41:20 PM »
am I able to transfer available cl from one amex card to another online? can this trigger a fr?
IME you cannot transfer a CL online you must do it over the phone. I don't think it will trigger a FR if you transfer CL, but I'll let someone with more knowledge answer that one.