US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[cholent]

Really, you get upset if I call a murderer a pig? That's how many people will look at it.

I don't know about you but I don't have much respect for murderers or people that threaten murder. Character assassination absolutely works in this case. It goes against everything Hilary was trying to show.

She had one example of a average joe who she called out by name that trump was mean to, and it turns out that joe is a terrible person.

If he had fired her from being Miss U for being a suspected accomplice to murder, nobody would have blinked. But he did not know that about her at the time, and it has no bearing on how he treated her.

I for one absolutely am turned off, frankly disgusted, by how he treated this woman and many others. I guess you can say I've picked my poison. Not sure I can actually vote for Hillary, but I'm definitely not voting for him

[jj1000]

So Trump was mean to her because she was a terrible person?

Yes. Only terrible people gain so much weight. #Friday

Pretty indisputable that he called the whole media to watch her exercise in the gym and said "You can see she likes to eat".

Easy to believe he did call her Miss Piggy, based on his history of name calling women. And if he didn't.... it doesn't erase the rest of the history of how he treats women.

1. Did you watch the full video of her at the gym posted above he seemed very normal about it all, saying he also eats a lot. 2. He name calls women just as much as he name calls men, that's who he is. I don't think it is different women or men.

If he had fired her from being Miss U for being a suspected accomplice to murder, nobody would have blinked. But he did not know that about her at the time, and it has no bearing on how he treated her.

I think for many people watching the news it does make a difference.

[Dan]

If he had fired her from being Miss U for being a suspected accomplice to murder, nobody would have blinked. But he did not know that about her at the time, and it has no bearing on how he treated her.

I for one absolutely am turned off, frankly disgusted, by how he treated this woman and many others. I guess you can say I've picked my poison. Not sure I can actually vote for Hillary, but I'm definitely not voting for him

What's even more pathetic is that a decent 3rd party candidate could have done well this year.
And even that we can't get.

[Sammy82]

If he had fired her from being Miss U for being a suspected accomplice to murder, nobody would have blinked. But he did not know that about her at the time, and it has no bearing on how he treated her.

I for one absolutely am turned off, frankly disgusted, by how he treated this woman and many others. I guess you can say I've picked my poison. Not sure I can actually vote for Hillary, but I'm definitely not voting for him

Have you not seen the interviews of Hillary where she threatens any person that accuses her husband? Is that better? Come on, I don't think that's really what you believe. More likely you're a hardcore Democrat/Clinton supporter for 20+ years and you're just trying to find any reason why her opponent is bad so you could maybe justify why you 'had to' vote for her.

[JTZ]

What's even more pathetic is that a decent 3rd party candidate could have done well this year.

...but would never win. We are stuck with the two party system.

[danrocks613]

What's even more pathetic is that a decent 3rd party candidate could have done well this year.
And even that we can't get.

Has any seen the clip of Johnson not being able to name one foreign leader. He called it an Aleppo moment. Pathetic.

[aygart]

An interesting note on post debate polls:

By looking at the RCP charts the gains Hillary made in the polls are not from people switching from Trump. His numbers have actually gone up. It is only that hers have gone up from undecideds and from the 4 way numbers it looks like she got some Johnson supportes as well.

[zale]

Have you not seen the interviews of Hillary where she threatens any person that accuses her husband? Is that better? Come on, I don't think that's really what you believe. More likely you're a hardcore Democrat/Clinton supporter for 20+ years and you're just trying to find any reason why her opponent is bad so you could maybe justify why you 'had to' vote for her.

People have a certain perception of what a president is supposed to act and look like. If the candidate doesn't act or look that way, people believe that they are not "qualified" for the presidency.

Basically, the candidate can do whatever they want, so long as they act and look presidential. Hillary can threaten people and be mean, but she looks presidential, so nothing else matters. Trump does not act or look presidential, this is why people, even very smart people, are having a hard time coming to terms with him. Hillary spews presidential "stuff" from her mouth, whereas Trump spews stuff that are not "presidential".

Many people don't know this, but Lyndon Johnson was an absolute nutcase. Facebook and Twitter weren't around to broadcast it, but you are free to check it up on Google. He once pulled his privates out during a meeting. Just saying...

[Dan]

...but would never win. We are stuck with the two party system.

If there was ever a year for a 3rd party to have a shot, this is it.

[JTZ]

If there was ever a year for a 3rd party to have a shot, this is it.

I would ask what % chance they would have of winning but that would be fruitless. 

[Dan]

I would ask what % chance they would have of winning but that would be fruitless. 

If Mark Cuban would have run on a 3rd party ticket I'd say it would be getting really interesting right now.

[Yammer]

1. Did you watch the full video of her at the gym posted above he seemed very normal about it all, saying he also eats a lot.

The way I see it, it was a publicity stunt. She had gained weight and there was pressure for them to drop her. He wasn't ready to let her go, so he made a splash of how much weight she will lose.

And she's complaining about it??
 ( Btw just listen what he had to say about the reporters...it doesn't look like he had anything against her )

[cholent]

Have you not seen the interviews of Hillary where she threatens any person that accuses her husband? Is that better? Come on, I don't think that's really what you believe. More likely you're a hardcore Democrat/Clinton supporter for 20+ years and you're just trying to find any reason why her opponent is bad so you could maybe justify why you 'had to' vote for her.

Wow. That's pretty incredible, coming from someone who has no clue who I am... even on a Friday.

FTR, I have always voted R for the presidency. And had any other of the Republican primary contenders won, I would be doing so again this year. I am far from a Hillary supporter, and will likely not vote at all for President (I'll still vote down ballot) as I can't imagine pulling the lever for her. But for all her many, many, many very real issues, she is still normal. He is not. And although he insults men as well, he definitely treats women as distinctly second class citizens. I know that's not something most on this forum are concerned about... (including you, you are probably a misogynistic arrogant man who is just looking for any reason to excuse his behavior that you secretly agree with)

[JTZ]

I know that's not something most on this forum are concerned about...

You should have stopped there.

[Sammy82]

Wow. That's pretty incredible, coming from someone who has no clue who I am... even on a Friday.

FTR, I have always voted R for the presidency. And had any other of the Republican primary contenders won, I would be doing so again this year. I am far from a Hillary supporter, and will likely not vote at all for President (I'll still vote down ballot) as I can't imagine pulling the lever for her. But for all her many, many, many very real issues, she is still normal. He is not. And although he insults men as well, he definitely treats women as distinctly second class citizens. I know that's not something most on this forum are concerned about... (including you, you are probably a misogynistic arrogant man who is just looking for any reason to excuse his behavior that you secretly agree with)

I see you really are a Republican. A Democrat wouldn't have gotten so offended (I would have had the same reaction!). I apologize for suggesting that you were a D.
But that being the case, how could you have such a teinah on Trump when Hillary has been documented (and even admitted on TV {eyin my above post} to do the same and treat people (men and woman but specifically women whom here husband has raped)? Not to say that in that regard one is better than the other. They're both disgusting.

[aygart]

Wow. That's pretty incredible, coming from someone who has no clue who I am... even on a Friday.

FTR, I have always voted R for the presidency. And had any other of the Republican primary contenders won, I would be doing so again this year. I am far from a Hillary supporter, and will likely not vote at all for President (I'll still vote down ballot) as I can't imagine pulling the lever for her. But for all her many, many, many very real issues, she is still normal. He is not. And although he insults men as well, he definitely treats women as distinctly second class citizens. I know that's not something most on this forum are concerned about... (including you, you are probably a misogynistic arrogant man who is just looking for any reason to excuse his behavior that you secretly agree with)

Where did you see him treating women differently than men? Because he insulted some? I think if you look hard enough you will find some men to whom he did the same.

[Joe4007]

...but would never win. We are stuck with the two party system.

You don't think if a 3'rd party candidate got 20-30% of the vote that would open the door for a 3'rd party win in coming elections?

[cholent]

Where did you see him treating women differently than men? Because he insulted some? I think if you look hard enough you will find some men to whom he did the same.

Don't even have to look that hard 

[JTZ]

You don't think if a 3'rd party candidate got 20-30% of the vote that would open the door for a 3'rd party win in coming elections?

Yes but I don't think 20-30% is going to happen.

[Joe4007]

Yes but I don't think 20-30% is going to happen.

If Mark Cuban would have run on a 3rd party ticket I'd say it would be getting really interesting right now.