Stopover Rules Master thread

[AJK]

Only 2.5 weeks for the SJU-LGW route. The SJU-MAD is until EOS.

Because we do not know when he is booking, checking for availability is a fools game because what's true now won't be true tomorrow.

[MEIR613]

Only 2.5 weeks for the SJU-LGW route. The SJU-MAD is until EOS.

EOS? I'm still a nOOn

[Saver2000]

EOS? I'm still a nOOn

End of sale/season
(Depending on the context)

[MEIR613]

End of sale/season
(Depending on the context)

Thanks

[alpicone]

So then what was your plan? You're stopping over en route to... where?

Sorry to make you guys crazy... I am planning a trip for Presidents Day weekend 2014. Trying to plan in advance for when the flights open up on AA to be able to have my choice of flights before the good ones get taken.

I don't have any specific additional destinations in mind for the trip other than SJU but was looking to book an extra leg on the flight for later use. I only have 5 days for the trip and hope to sit at the beach/pool for all 5 days.

[AJK]

So all your questions have been answered above.

[alpicone]

Something like this

Interesting... Actually fewer miles when you add the second leg.

[alpicone]

So all your questions have been answered above.

Yes. Thank you guys. Can you also give me an example of an additional leg to add on the return from SJU - JFK?

[AJK]

Yes. Thank you guys. Can you also give me an example of an additional leg to add on the return from SJU - JFK?

You don't get one.

You have to be arriving from/leaving to a non-NA city to get a "free one-way."

That's the reason why the only destinations available to you from SJU were LGW(EU), MAD(EU) and CCS(SA), and not another NA city.

[alpicone]

You don't get one.

You have to be arriving from/leaving to a non-NA city to get a "free one-way."

Ok. Still trying to digest the rules for the SO and what qualifies as a gateway city and what doesn't. Why from JFK - SJU does SJU qualify but for the reverse JFK won't qualify?

[AJK]

Ok. Still trying to digest the rules for the SO and what qualifies as a gateway city and what doesn't. Why from JFK - SJU does SJU qualify but for the reverse JFK won't qualify?

You only get a free stopover on your first or last "touch" of NA immediately prior or subsequent to a non-NA flight.

Thus, you can get one in JFK on a routing LHR-JFK-??? (first touch of NA where "? ??" = NA destination) or LAX-JFK-??? (last touch of NA where "? ??" = non-NA destination)

[alpicone]

You only get a free stopover on your first or last "touch" of NA immediately prior or subsequent to a non-NA flight.

Thus, you can get one in JFK on a routing LHR-JFK-??? (first touch of NA where "? ??" = NA destination) or LAX-JFK-??? (last touch of NA where "? ??" = non-NA destination)

Got it... So I was able to price out SJU-JFK-CCS for 15k miles.

[MEIR613]

Yes. Thank you guys. Can you also give me an example of an additional leg to add on the return from SJU - JFK?

SJU - JFK - LHR/CDG

You don't get one.

-1

He could go SJU - NYC - EU

[AJK]

SJU - JFK - LHR/CDG-1

He could go SJU - NYC - EU

True. I assumed (foolishly) that he wanted a domestic free one way.

I did, however, point out:

You have to be arriving from/leaving to a non-NA city to get a "free one-way."

[MEIR613]

I did, however, point out:

True, but he asked for an additional leg.

You told him his flight wouldn't be eligible.

I guess we always need to be careful how we word things.

[AJK]

True, but he asked for an additional leg.

You told him his flight wouldn't be eligible.

I guess we always need to be careful how we word things.

No, I worded it exactly the way I meant it.

I just (possibly) assumed incorrectly

But, again, I gave him all the info he needed to make the conclusion he could do SJU-JFK-EU.

[MEIR613]

You have to be arriving from/leaving to a non-NA city to get a "free one-way."

-1

You could arrive and leave from a NA gateway city ex. LAX - JFK - LHR or LHR - LAX - JFK. Both JFK and LAX are NA city.

The rule is, the city you are leaving from/arriving to must be a NA gateway city.

[AJK]

Are you in a bad mood tonight?

What you just said doesn't differ from what you quoted.

LAX-JFK-LHR is leaving TO a non-NA city.

LHR-LAX-JFK is arriving FROM a non-NA city.

[MEIR613]

Are you in a bad mood tonight?

What you just said doesn't differ from what you quoted.

1)Not at all.

2)What's a "non-NA"? Does that mean a gateway city? If it does, why is it "non" and if doesn't, you need a gateway city.

LAX-JFK-LHR is leaving TO a non-NA city.

LHR-LAX-JFK is arriving FROM a non-NA city.

The whole idea of NA gateway city SO, is that you need to SO in a NA GW city.

Of course you are going to/leaving from a non-NA since it only works on an international award ticket which is obvious either the destination/origin won't be a NA city.

You didn't mention that you need to stop in a NA GW city, only that you need to leave to or come from a non-NA city.

[AJK]

Non-NA = non-north American city.