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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5340 on: December 10, 2014, 10:51:55 PM »
Can't talk about it  ::)

then its prob good news
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5341 on: December 10, 2014, 11:17:48 PM »
Nobody here went to speak to a banker after A/A?
If You See Something, Say Something!!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5342 on: December 10, 2014, 11:20:22 PM »
Nobody here went to speak to a banker after A/A?
If you report some good news there will be lots of people going tomorrow.  :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5343 on: December 10, 2014, 11:22:38 PM »
Nobody here went to speak to a banker after A/A?
I went to 3 different bankers they called and sent in letters for me and nothin doin.....

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5344 on: December 11, 2014, 01:43:58 AM »
Nobody here went to speak to a banker after A/A?
Many have and it does no good.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5345 on: December 11, 2014, 12:00:08 PM »

Nobody here went to speak to a banker after A/A?
We need you to ANSWER questions, not ASK questions.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5346 on: December 11, 2014, 12:07:40 PM »
We need you to ANSWER questions, not ASK questions.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5347 on: December 14, 2014, 02:23:20 PM »
I've now been back in Chase since August, 2008 after being shut down via AA for 3 years.

The first card I applied for was the personal UA card. Two months later I received both of the Business Ink cards via recon.

I just now applied for the Hyatt and Marriott cards and called in for recon on both. The first rep declined both because of too much 'credit activity.' I asked for a supervisor who approved for the Hyatt after re-allocating some credit but would not budge on the Marriott.

What was interesting how she several times referenced my 'short history with Chase.' In other words, she had no knowledge of or access to the old AAd cards or my lengthy history with Chase to reverse their decision. This is consistent with my experience during the AA where few departments seemed to know anything about it except that there was adverse action taken on the account. Also, they were true to their word that they will remove the comments on my account about 'previous negative relationship with the bank.'

At the time of the AA reversal the rep said I should call her if I get declined again for a card....I'm kind of tempted to do so, but its probably not worth drawing too much attention to my account. I think its time to go easy on Chase for awhile....I don't want to be the first person to get AAd twice.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5348 on: December 14, 2014, 02:30:22 PM »
Definitely would not call her about this.

She likely told you to call her in the event you were declined based on unsatisfactory relationship grounds, not becuase you're once again trying to game the system.

BTW - how did you manage to have Chase remove the negative comments?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5349 on: December 14, 2014, 02:33:04 PM »
Definitely would not call her about this.

She likely told you to call her in the event you were declined based on unsatisfactory relationship grounds, not becuase you're once again trying to game the system.

BTW - how did you manage to have Chase remove the negative comments?

The reason given for all my declines during AA was the 'negative relationship.' She said she'll remove these comments so future apps will go through.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5350 on: December 14, 2014, 02:33:30 PM »
The reason given for all my declines during AA was the 'negative relationship.' She said she'll remove these comments so future apps will go through.

...How?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5351 on: December 14, 2014, 02:54:00 PM »
...How?

I don't know 'how' but I guess there's a 'delete' button somewhere?? I've written in the past about it on this thread. Effectively the decided to 'renew the relationship.'

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5352 on: December 14, 2014, 02:59:48 PM »
That's what I was asking... how did you convince them to renew the relationship. Not the computer mechanics of how the delete button may have been pressed :)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5353 on: December 14, 2014, 03:33:03 PM »
That's what I was asking... how did you convince them to renew the relationship. Not the computer mechanics of how the delete button may have been pressed :)

Check out some of my old posts. Basically, you cannot convince them. They have to convince themselves. I simply applied several times during the year and they finally decided to let me back. In the past I had tried speaking, writing, faxing etc...all ignored. I was very careful about my credit and they finally decided to let it go through.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5354 on: December 14, 2014, 03:34:43 PM »
Check out some of my old posts. Basically, you cannot convince them. They have to convince themselves. I simply applied several times during the year and they finally decided to let me back. In the past I had tried speaking, writing, faxing etc...all ignored. I was very careful about my credit and they finally decided to let it go through.
IOW there's no magical way of doing it.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5355 on: December 14, 2014, 05:59:50 PM »

At the time of the AA reversal the rep said I should call her if I get declined again for a card....I'm kind of tempted to do so, but its probably not worth drawing too much attention to my account. I think its time to go easy on Chase for awhile....I don't want to be the first person to get AAd twice.

You won't be, there's at least 1 ddf'er in that group..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5356 on: December 14, 2014, 06:24:16 PM »
Last couple of weeks. Yes.
Did you get bonuses? Did they post? Please update us if and when they do, so I'll know if I should reapply

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« Reply #5357 on: December 16, 2014, 01:31:49 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but figured this was worth mentioning as a heads up. I recently sold my UR miles to a broker who transferred them out of my account over the course of a few weeks. I just received the following letter from Chase:

We reviewed your account and determined that some of your Chase Ultimate Rewards points were transferred improperly.

Ultimate Rewards points can only be transferred to you, your spouse/domestic partner or your joint business owner(s).

Your reward membership will end and your account will be closed if there are additional improper rewards transfers or there is any other misuse of the program or any misrepresentation by you.


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Re: Sellmilesnow.com
« Reply #5358 on: December 16, 2014, 02:05:30 PM »
Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but figured this was worth mentioning as a heads up. I recently sold my UR miles to a broker who transferred them out of my account over the course of a few weeks. I just received the following letter from Chase:

We reviewed your account and determined that some of your Chase Ultimate Rewards points were transferred improperly.

Ultimate Rewards points can only be transferred to you, your spouse/domestic partner or your joint business owner(s).

Your reward membership will end and your account will be closed if there are additional improper rewards transfers or there is any other misuse of the program or any misrepresentation by you.
Were they transferred to other UR accounts? Or other mileage accounts?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Sellmilesnow.com
« Reply #5359 on: December 16, 2014, 02:06:54 PM »
Were they transferred to other UR accounts? Or other mileage accounts?

Mileage accounts.