Iran's Top Terrorist Taken Out By The U.S.

[CountValentine]

Yes, it sure looks like war to give a warning and kill zero Americans.

They targeted American military assets from Iran and you don't consider that an act of war. If that is way you look at it so be it.

[chinagel]

No one knows at this point. I believe they targeted military assets. They made it clear this was Iran taking this action and not proxies as many of you predicted they would use. This was an act of war. I am grateful Trump backed down. You all say I never give Trump credit. He gets 100% credit for this not going further. So please bookmark this when the lies start/continue that I never give him credit.

For the record you would have lost this bet. They did mess with us. There action was war like. The reason we there is not a war now is because our coward president backed down after being attacked. See how easy it is to spin it the way you want to.

lol. Bookmarked this.

[aygart]

Proxies never made sense. That would be a real revenge not just a continuation of their loud mouthing and they wouldn't be showing their citizens that anything was done. Now they can tell their citizen that they did something.
This is of course 20/20 hindsight.

[CountValentine]

lol. Bookmarked this.

Fine, I gave him 100% credit. What's your point that I called him a "coward"? What do you call a draft dodger?
I do appreciate your dishonesty taking a spin comment out of context. 

[chinagel]

Fine, I gave him 100% credit. What's your point that I called him a "coward"? What do you call a draft dodger?

Why didn't you call him "our orange haired president" or "IMPOTUS"? You were calling him a coward in that context. Then you felt the squeeze and

As a wise man said:

...but we do goalposts!!!

We just change them.

   

[CountValentine]

Why didn't you call him "our orange haired president" or "IMPOTUS"? You were calling him a coward in that context. Then you felt the squeeze andWe just change them.
   

You ignore this part of the comment "See how easy it is to spin it the way you want to" because you are dishonest.
Why do you always back up other Jews against anything I say? Do you hate now Jews that much?

[whYME]

They made it clear this was Iran taking this action and not proxies as many of you predicted they would use.

You're totally ignoring the main part of those predictions.

Iran's primary agenda is avoiding a war that will lead to regime change. They are still learning how much trouble they can cause without starting a war.

They talk a big talk but at the end of the day their #1 goal is to stay in power. The last thing they want is all out war with the US. Because whatever the ultimate result of that would be, one thing that's absolutely certain is that the current regime will be knocked out.

then there's also this:

Proxies never made sense. That would be a real revenge not just a continuation of their loud mouthing and they wouldn't be showing their citizens that anything was done. Now they can tell their citizen that they did something.
This is of course 20/20 hindsight.

I agree with this (20/20 hindsight) although I still think they'll use proxies to try for some real revenge.

[CountValentine]

You're totally ignoring the main part of those predictions.

Are you disagreeing that attacking American military assets from Iran is not an act of war?

This might help you: “This was an act of war, Sean, by any reasonable definition,” Graham continued, before declaring that “the President has all the authority he needs under Article II to respond. How he responds is yet to be determined.”

[chinagel]

You ignore this part of the comment "See how easy it is to spin it the way you want to" because you are dishonest.

How do you lose a bet based off of a spin.

Why do you always back up other Jews against anything I say? Do you hate now Jews that much?

Problems is, I only see you arguing with Jews.

See how easy it is to spin it the way you want to

It's mainly that I disagree with most of what you say, the end result is I'm backing a Jew.

ETA: Just to make you happy I will say I think it was an act of war. But, I don't like getting involved in these endless arguments. I just like pointing out when you twist yourself into a pretzel.

[CountValentine]

How do you lose a bet based off of a spin.

You lose a bet by being wrong. Read the original bet and stop trying to spin it.
Was Iran's action an act of war?

[chinagel]

You lose a bet by being wrong. Read the original bet and stop trying to spin it.
Was Iran's action an act of war?

See my edit. I wasn't getting involved in the actual argument.

[CountValentine]

See my edit. I wasn't getting involved in the actual argument.

No you were trying to twist the outcome of a bet that I never took.
You agree it was an act of war but say I would have lost the bet? That I am trying to twist into a pretzel when you agree it was an act of war. 

[CountValentine]

Why don't you attack Dan who claims it wasn't an attack of war? You disagree with him so whats up? Can it be he is a Jew and I am not? @chinagel

Yes, it sure looks like war to give a warning and kill zero Americans.

[whYME]

Are you disagreeing that attacking American military assets from Iran is not an act of war?

This might help you: “This was an act of war, Sean, by any reasonable definition,” Graham continued, before declaring that “the President has all the authority he needs under Article II to respond. How he responds is yet to be determined.”

Gee, well if Lindsey Graham said it's an act of war, then I guess we should send in the troops 
Let's ignore all the posturing and strutting on both sides and focus on the bottom line. So far Iran seems to be trying to (push the envelope as far as can and still) avoid a real war. Which is what Dan & I have both been saying all along they would do. It seems to me the "bet" was whether it escalates into a full-blown war, not whether Iran commits  an "act of war" without killing Americans.

[chinagel]

No you were trying to twist the outcome of a bet that I never took.
You agree it was an act of war but say I would have lost the bet? That I am trying to twist into a pretzel when you agree it was an act of war. 

My point was not the bet at all. My point was that originally you were criticizing Orangutan for being a coward and not responding. Then, for whatever reason, when it was convenient for you, you give him credit for the very same act. And made sure to loudly proclaim the

You all say I never give Trump credit. He gets 100% credit for this not going further.

[chinagel]

Why don't you attack Dan who claims it wasn't an attack of war? You disagree with him so whats up? Can it be he is a Jew and I am not? @chinagel

Don''t bite the hand that feeds you.
I don't usually get involved in the main arguments, I find them boring. Just your pretzels.

[yuneeq]

Thankfully, I don't think too many are confused about the difference between war and an act of war. Most people wouldn't call someone drunk because they sipped an oz of beer, which is indeed part of the process of getting drunk. Most people here have been saying these escalations will not become a war, and that seems to be likely.

[CountValentine]

My point was not the bet at all. My point was that originally you were criticizing Orangutan for being a coward and not responding. Then, for whatever reason, when it was convenient for you, you give him credit for the very same act. And made sure to loudly proclaim the

He is the reason we are not at war and he gets 100% of the credit. If I call him coward, scumbag, Kool-Aid drinker or a 100+ different names how does that change what I said about giving him credit?

[Ergel]

@CountValentine You really think he is a coward for not responding to the missile strike?

[Dan]

Gee, well if Lindsey Graham said it's an act of war, then I guess we should send in the troops 
Let's ignore all the posturing and strutting on both sides and focus on the bottom line. So far Iran seems to be trying to (push the envelope as far as can and still) avoid a real war. Which is what Dan & I have both been saying all along they would do. It seems to me the "bet" was whether it escalates into a full-blown war, not whether Iran commits  an "act of war" without killing Americans.

So simple to understand, I'm surprised anyone can get this wrong.
Everyone said they would retaliate and figure out how far they can push our buttons. They will keep doing that. That doesn't mean the US is entering into a war.