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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2020, 02:21:38 PM »
First and foremost, suppliers. We will be seeing many bankruptcies in that space. Some are losing money in the billion dollar range, and I don't mean lost profits.
Generators and utilities whose entire structure has been upended by all of the closed businesses and all of the houses in use. The regulators are going to have a difficult time dealing with many aspects of this.
Yes, this seems to be a much harder and bigger problem than food factories closing...if the power goes out, there's going to be mass riots to reopen the country.

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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2020, 02:29:21 PM »
Yes, this seems to be a much harder and bigger problem than food factories closing...if the power goes out, there's going to be mass riots to reopen the country.
I don't think that will actually end up happening, but it will take intervention.
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2020, 02:31:39 PM »
My knowledge of the industry. It is much further off and I expect that it will be avoided before it actually happens, but it will take a change in trajectory.
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2020, 02:34:06 PM »
Come to Israel people. Shelves are fully stocked. We even have toilet paper on sale.

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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2020, 02:44:12 PM »
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2020, 02:46:54 PM »
Workflowy. You won't know what you're missing until you try it.

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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2020, 02:55:21 PM »
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2020, 02:56:27 PM »
Come to Israel people. Shelves are fully stocked. We even have toilet paper on sale.
There are still flights. Iím strongly considering going for a few months.
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2020, 02:58:44 PM »
There are still flights. Iím strongly considering going for a few months.
Will they let you in?
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2020, 03:11:19 PM »
If schools really open next week it sounds pretty enticing...
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2020, 04:43:20 PM »
There are still flights. Iím strongly considering going for a few months.
Wait the shelter in place guy wants to travel?
Can you spell hypocrite?  :)
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2020, 04:43:53 PM »
Wait the shelter in place guy wants to travel?
Can you spell hypocrite?  :)
He is looking for a quarantine hotel
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2020, 04:49:44 PM »
He is looking for a quarantine hotel
...and a quarantined airport, plane, taxi and 100 others places?
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2020, 05:25:43 PM »
He is looking for a quarantine hotel

What's the point of going and being locked in a hotel for 2 weeks? Yes, free food and lodging, but what's the purpose of the trip?
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2020, 05:29:22 PM »
What's the point of going and being locked in a hotel for 2 weeks? Yes, free food and lodging, but what's the purpose of the trip?
this is DDF. Cheap travel, room & board IS the purpose of the trip.

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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2020, 06:14:27 PM »
First and foremost, suppliers. We will be seeing many bankruptcies in that space. Some are losing money in the billion dollar range, and I don't mean lost profits.
Generators and utilities whose entire structure has been upended by all of the closed businesses and all of the houses in use. The regulators are going to have a difficult time dealing with many aspects of this.

This is ironic, the low demand makes for low prices, which kills supply to the point that its lower than current demand.

Energy is interesting because the supply is so centralized and you canít just pop up a power plant randomly to compete.
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2020, 06:17:24 PM »
What's the point of going and being locked in a hotel for 2 weeks? Yes, free food and lodging, but what's the purpose of the trip?
I hope the view is worth it.

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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2020, 06:17:51 PM »
This is ironic, the low demand makes for low prices, which kills supply to the point that its lower than current demand.

Energy is interesting because the supply is so centralized and you canít just pop up a power plant randomly to compete.

There is much more to it than that. There are many fixed cost whether or not the end-user consumes any energy at all. In some jurisditions these fixed costs can make up more than half of the energy price. If someone has these fixed costs embedded in their fixed price per kWh and then they do not use it the costs are borne by the supplier unless their contract allows them to pass it through.
Also interesting because it can't be efficiently stored using current technology.
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Re: Food Shortage Coming?
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2020, 06:20:44 PM »
There is much more to it than that. There are many fixed cost whether or not the end-user consumes any energy at all. In some jurisditions these fixed costs can make up more than half of the energy price. If someone has these fixed costs embedded in their fixed price per kWh and then they do not use it the costs are borne by the supplier unless their contract allows them to pass it through.
Also interesting because it can't be efficiently stored using current technology.

Fascinating. Wouldnít many of the fixed costs be covered by minimum supply/delivery charges?
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« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2020, 06:27:25 PM »
Fascinating. Wouldnít many of the fixed costs be covered by minimum supply/delivery charges?
No. They are part of supply costs. The delivery end is its own issue. Utilities have mostly fixed costs considering that they are mostly from maintaining the system. They bill it based on how much an account uses in order to divide the costs equitably. Now that there is around 5-10% less energy being consumed, how are those costs being compensated?
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