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NY Rent Assistance Program
« on: July 14, 2020, 06:51:10 PM »
https://hcr.ny.gov/RRP

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2020, 08:03:39 PM »
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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2020, 08:06:11 PM »
Is this a savior also for frum building landlords who aren't getting any rent now?

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2020, 09:50:06 PM »
Is this a savior also for frum building landlords who aren't getting any rent now?

I wouldn't call it a savior. If you follow the overly complicated subsidy calculation you'll see it only covers the % above 30% of income you used to pay as compared to the % above 30% you're paying based on current income. Will probably be a few hundred dollars for most applicants, and even if you're eligible for the full 4 months chances are you'll see a payment equal to one months rent at most (that's because UI counts as income).

Oddly enough (or maybe by design) the program is from April through July- the exact same months FPUC is available for. This jacks up gross income for most and results in lower subsidy payments.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2020, 01:32:57 AM »
Is this a savior also for frum building landlords who aren't getting any rent now?
The mentality is already broken. Most (Not all) of those people not paying rent now, received in the past few months more income than the whole year, from Stimulus, Unemployment, Snap, Food Programs, PPP, EIDL, etc, They just don't pay rent because Cuomo/Di-Blasio/Cortez said not to pay rent, and this mentality will stay forever now

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2020, 10:39:02 AM »
Is this a savior also for frum building landlords who aren't getting any rent now?
Ha ha, no. Most of my tenants wouldnt qualify for this.

The big issue with this (and perhaps why i'm not going to send out to my tenants), is having the tenants comfortable with (D)HCR's new website. This can cause a lot of headaches for a NY LL with a few clicks.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2020, 10:43:15 AM »
Ha ha, no. Most of my tenants wouldnt qualify for this.

The big issue with this (and perhaps why i'm not going to send out to my tenants), is having the tenants comfortable with (D)HCR's new website. This can cause a lot of headaches for a NY LL with a few clicks.
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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2020, 10:57:18 AM »
Ha ha, no. Most of my tenants wouldnt qualify for this.

The big issue with this (and perhaps why i'm not going to send out to my tenants), is having the tenants comfortable with (D)HCR's new website. This can cause a lot of headaches for a NY LL with a few clicks.

And you think they're waiting for you to tell them about it? They have their own "mikvah" where they hear all the news in how they can milk the system.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2020, 11:01:25 AM »
And you think they're waiting for you to tell them about it? They have their own "mikvah" where they hear all the news in how they can milk the system.
While in some instances your are right, so if they apply on their own great (they should know about it). But in most of the time that is not the case. Very rarely do you have a tenant thats knowledgeable in all agencies.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2020, 10:01:21 AM »
https://hcr.ny.gov/RRP

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Applications are now live, although I'm pretty sure the site is crashing.
You'll need to log in with NY login (same as unemployment, DMV, etc) when applying.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2020, 12:13:09 PM »
Calculator for this program available in my signature link below

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2020, 01:20:03 PM »
do we know how parsonage plays in?
both on previous and on lost?

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2020, 11:03:53 PM »
do we know how parsonage plays in?
both on previous and on lost?

of all the great sages here, no one knows? not even the chief r of ny? he prob gets parsonage (if he's real)

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2020, 07:35:05 PM »
is there a deadline now for applying for this program in NY?

someone who was not paid for the interim months: what proof of income is required?
submit pay stubs for Feb and none for current months?
(or if one spouses job was dropped, submit both stubs for feb, and just the 1 for now)?

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2020, 07:37:10 PM »
is there a deadline now for applying for this program in NY?

someone who was not paid for the interim months: what proof of income is required?
submit pay stubs for Feb and none for current months?
(or if one spouses job was dropped, submit both stubs for feb, and just the 1 for now)?

Deadline is Thursday, 07/30.
If income was literally 0 and they did not file for unemployment, then there is none to submit, correct.
And yes, submit for both spouses.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2020, 07:40:00 PM »
Deadline is Thursday, 07/30.
If income was literally 0 and they did not file for unemployment
this if they have not yet filed for unemployment, regardless of if they intend to apply in the future (for backdated claim)?

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 07:58:30 PM »
this if they have not yet filed for unemployment, regardless of if they intend to apply in the future (for backdated claim)?
If they haven't filed yet (even if they will get backdated funds) it is not reportable income, and should not be included.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2020, 08:24:42 PM »
seems like the application asks generally:
*monthly income  on  3/1/2020
*monthly income now
*proof of income 3/1/2020
*proof of income now

with now month-by-month breakdown

I'm guessing the number for "income now" would be whatever the number is for July? (or average of mar-jul)?
and for "proof" would upload for 1st set a collection of whatever stubs for the entirety of Feb, and for the "now" set all stubs in Mar-Jul?

another question:
is it really neccesary to submit SSN for every resident (including children/with no income)?
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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2020, 10:12:13 PM »
seems like the application asks generally:
*monthly income  on  3/1/2020
*monthly income now
*proof of income 3/1/2020
*proof of income now

with now month-by-month breakdown

I'm guessing the number for "income now" would be whatever the number is for July? (or average of mar-jul)?
and for "proof" would upload for 1st set a collection of whatever stubs for the entirety of Feb, and for the "now" set all stubs in Mar-Jul?

another question:
is it really neccesary to submit SSN for every resident (including children/with no income)?

It actually asks for income and proof prior to March 1.
Yes, income now is for July through today, so anything coming in tomorrow wouldn't be included.
For the prior income and proof it's not clear exactly which month to go with, or if an average is needed, but February is as good as any.
For proof for "now" March through July is correct.

I'm not sure about the residents, but it does make sense that you'd need to because you need to prove your household size.

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Re: NY Rent Assistance Program
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2020, 10:09:58 AM »
Reminder:
Application deadline is tomorrow, August 6.