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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #520 on: August 31, 2021, 02:38:14 PM »
Quote from: Yehuda57 on August 30, 2021, 11:38:20 PM
There are varying levels of skepticism.

Let's say you said, "the experts agree, the vaccines are effective, safe, and everyone who can should get them"

The experts agree - we don't trust those experts, they've been lying to us all through covid. And any expert who disagrees is silenced.
They work - sure, but not as much as claimed.
They're safe - possibly, though we can't know for sure yet, and there are side effects being pushed under the rug.
Everyone should get them - not me, I'm already immune, and if you dare try to force me, there's no way I'm ever doing it.
I will give you the last one. Other three are not your normal Joe.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #521 on: August 31, 2021, 03:31:48 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 02:38:14 PM
I will give you the last one. Other three are not your normal Joe.

Most definitely are. I've heard all 3 from many people who are generally very conforming to societal norms (my definition of average in this instance).
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #522 on: August 31, 2021, 03:35:08 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 02:38:14 PM
I will give you the last one. Other three are not your normal Joe.

Disagree - I've taken the vaccine, yet I relate to the sentiment expressed in all 3 of those concerns.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #524 on: August 31, 2021, 04:13:55 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 03:31:48 PM
Most definitely are. I've heard all 3 from many people who are generally very conforming to societal norms (my definition of average in this instance).
I would have called two people I know as normal Joe's until I just found out they believe the vaccine magnetizes you.
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« Reply #525 on: August 31, 2021, 04:25:05 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 04:13:55 PM
I would have called two people I know as normal Joe's until I just found out they believe the vaccine magnetizes you.

That's exactly the point. It's not the usual lunatics, conspiracy theorists, or alternative medicine types who have questions or who are buying the FUD about Covid vaccines. It's average Joes. People you liked and considered reliable for years.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #526 on: August 31, 2021, 04:30:42 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 04:25:05 PM
That's exactly the point.
You missed the point. Just because you or I think they are average Joe's does not make it so.
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« Reply #527 on: August 31, 2021, 04:40:42 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 04:30:42 PM
You missed the point. Just because you or I think they are average Joe's does not make it so.

LOL! I think you're missing a crucial part of this equation. By definition, "the average Joe" is an unexceptional, run of the mill, ordinary American. Buying FUD or having vax questions doesn't change any part of that definition.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #528 on: August 31, 2021, 05:02:44 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 04:40:42 PM
I think you're missing a crucial part of this your equation.
FTFA
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #530 on: August 31, 2021, 05:09:04 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 05:05:45 PM
Ok, define "Average Joe" for us.
Everyone has a different definition. That is why these type of discussions never end.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #531 on: August 31, 2021, 05:13:16 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 05:09:04 PM
Everyone has a different definition. That is why these type of discussions never end.

 ::)  Cop out... Google it. There's a definition.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #532 on: August 31, 2021, 05:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 05:13:16 PM
::)  Cop out... Google it. There's a definition.
Ok I googled it. So most of this forum are not average Joe's?
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« Reply #533 on: August 31, 2021, 05:29:40 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 05:17:03 PM
Ok I googled it. So most of this forum are not average Joe's?

There are many DDFers who aren't. The only way to exclude most of the forum is if your definition includes religion.
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #534 on: August 31, 2021, 06:03:28 PM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 31, 2021, 05:29:40 PM
The only way to exclude most of the forum is if your definition includes religion.
Wrong. Maybe the way you dress, things you eat/drink among other things.
I don't think anyone here would be called Joe Sixpack.  :)
Like I said we can go on forever on what Average Joe means to everyone.
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« Reply #535 on: August 31, 2021, 06:07:18 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
Wrong. Maybe the way you dress, things you eat/drink among other things.
I don't think anyone here would be called Joe Sixpack.  :)
Like I said we can go on forever on what Average Joe means to everyone.

Sorry, didn't see anything in the definition that pointed to clothing or dietary choices. As for the sixpack, whether you're referring to fitness or beer, there are plenty of members who fit the bill.

It seems we're using different search engines. Can you post a link to the definition you're using?
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #536 on: August 31, 2021, 06:19:48 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe

Speaking of average. How many here would call their wife Average Jane?  :)
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #537 on: August 31, 2021, 06:30:22 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 06:19:48 PM
Speaking of Average Chaim. How many here would call their wife Average Chani or Average Mushkie?  :)
FTFY ;)
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« Reply #538 on: August 31, 2021, 06:32:18 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 31, 2021, 06:19:48 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe

Speaking of average. How many here would call their wife Average Jane?  :)

Not one, but that has little to do with whether it's true and everything to do with self-preservation.

With regards to your Average Joe definition, here are some actual definitions, not Wikipedia word salads:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/average-joe
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/average-joe
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/average+joe
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Re: When will a vaccine *really* be available?
« Reply #539 on: August 31, 2021, 06:35:06 PM »
Quote from: Dan on August 31, 2021, 06:30:22 PM
FTFY ;)
Mushkie - A beautiful well respected girl. Usually with a unique birthmark on their cheek and is highly lovable, honest and has a great sense of humour.
Chani - The cutest girl you will ever see in your life. Hands down. With a smile that can make your day. Doesn't care what people think of her either. With the cutest brown eyes, a chani will make the best girl for anyone.
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