Geopolitics and Wars of Israel

[yelped]

Maybe, although ToI did make a point of publishing far-right and religious leaders' condemnation of the riots. I just think that when something is an anomaly, and especially one that seems to be egregiously out of character, it's only natural that it gets more attention than something that is less controversial, even if it's worse.

I find ToI coverage to generally be very straight and clear. No double talk and twisting into pretzels.

[yos9694]

You need them to spend 3 minutes on how bad rockets are? Things that are obvious, even if they are worse, need less elaboration.

Boo. The "man bites dog is news" argument that you've touting here has no merit. In this conflict all of he things he mentioned are interconnected (rockets, lynchings) so choosing to emphasize the smaller scale incident over the larger scale incident shows bias, not newsworthiness

[CountValentine]

Wrong thread and I usually don't frequent the politics threads, but what do you have against him? I've seen him in his capacity the last couple of years, and I felt he was doing a very good job. No nonsense attitude that was backed up by facts, and not spineless like his boss.

Degenerating a women reporter for her pointing out he had his facts wrong. Then he was caught in a lie trying to cover it up just like his boss. @yelped

[yelped]

Degenerating a women reporter for her pointing out he had his facts wrong. Then he was caught in a lie trying to cover it up just like his boss. @yelped

Uch, stupid.

Is that the only grievance you have with him?

Not excusing him, but anyone in politics is 95% assured to be a very lousy person.

[Lurker]

Degenerating a women reporter for her pointing out he had his facts wrong. Then he was caught in a lie trying to cover it up just like his boss. @yelped

Please stop conflating an individual's personal failings with their ability to do a job efficiently.

anyone in politics is 95% assured to be a very lousy person.

[CountValentine]

FTFY

Pretty much, unfortunately. 

Short answer: Yes.

For longer explanations see the geopolitics thread.

Will have to disagree with you. This is a big problem.

[Yehuda57]

Will have to disagree with you. This is a big problem.

Supporting Palestine (or more precisely, Palestinians) does not necessarily mean you hate Israel per se. As is evidenced in this thread, most of the people on this forum are opposed to zionist ideology, yet they most definitely don't hate Israel.

However, if you take 1000 pro Palestinian people and break down their viewpoints, 999 of them will have an anti Israel /anti Semitic foundation.

Keep in mind, holding Israel to double standards shows an anti Israel bias (which for the purpose of this discussion in translating to "hate")

[CountValentine]

Keep in mind, holding Israel to double standards shows an anti Israel bias (which for the purpose of this discussion in translating to "hate")

What if someone feels Israel's response is to harsh in the current situation? Is that hate or anti-Israel?

[CountValentine]

However, if you take 1000 pro Palestinian people and break down their viewpoints, 999 of them will have an anti Israel /anti Semitic foundation.

You need to get out more.

[yelped]

What if someone feels Israel's response is to harsh in the current situation? Is that hate or anti-Israel?

They are either misfed, blind, or hate Israel.

There is no way any sane person who knows the facts would say that in this situation.

[Yehuda57]

What if someone feels Israel's response is to harsh in the current situation? Is that hate or anti-Israel?

Explain what is harsh, and provide an alternative. Prove where you've told other countries in a similar situation to do the same. If you can't, and 999/1000 can't, that's anti Israel bias.

[CountValentine]

They are either misfed, blind, or hate Israel.

There is no way any sane person who knows the facts would say that in this situation.

Many sane people will use deaths and destruction as their basis.

[CountValentine]

Explain what is harsh,

Many sane people will use deaths and destruction as their basis.

[yelped]

Many sane people will use deaths and destruction as their basis.

So they hate Israel and want more Israelis to die.

Only sane explanation for those "sane" people's expectations.

[Yehuda57]

Many sane people will use deaths and destruction as their basis.

OK, what is your opinion on America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? To much death? Too much destruction?

Korea?
Vietnam?

[CountValentine]

So they hate Israel and want more Israelis to die.

Only sane explanation for those "sane" people's expectations.

You don't understand how when someone sees 100 dead on side and 10 dead on the other they might feel the response is harsh without hating the one side?

[Yehuda57]

You need to get out more.

I grew up in South Africa, no other Chassidic Jews in my neighborhood.
I studied in Canada, France, Australia, Brooklyn and Buffalo.
My wife grew up in Nebraska, 3 hours away from the nearest Chassidic Jew, and who knows how far from what one could legitimately call a Chassidic community.
My next door neighbor is from Trinidad. My co-workers are from the Philippines, Dominican Republic, Haiti, Puerto Rico, and numerous states.
I've traveled to 5 continents.
I am hardly the exception. But please, tell me more about how sheltered we are.

[CountValentine]

OK, what is your opinion on America's wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? To much death? Too much destruction?

Korea?
Vietnam?

My view would be slanted being an American.

[Yehuda57]

You don't understand how when someone sees 100 dead on side and 10 dead on the other they might feel the response is harsh without hating the one side?

No, this is a ridiculous line of argument. More Israelis need to die?
How many terrorists is Israel allowed to kill for every one of its citizens who are murdered?

[yelped]

You don't understand how when someone sees 100 dead on side and 10 dead on the other they might feel the response is harsh without hating the one side?

So they hate Israel and want more Israelis to die.

Only sane explanation for those "sane" people's expectations.