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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #200 on: March 22, 2022, 08:49:20 AM »
Apparently conversion was completed today.

FWIW I was told that his DNA tests seem to indicate distant Jewish (Lithuanian) ancestry.
Beyond me why any self respecting Rabbi would touch anything to do with this guy with a ten foot pole
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #201 on: March 22, 2022, 08:54:05 AM »
Beyond me why any self respecting Rabbi would touch anything to do with this guy with a ten foot pole

Maybe because there's some DNA evidence that shows that he might actually be Jewish.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #202 on: March 22, 2022, 08:55:07 AM »
Maybe because there's some DNA evidence that shows that he might actually be Jewish.
And so? Unless one is absolutely obligated to do it why would would you admit such a person to the Jewish people?
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #203 on: March 22, 2022, 09:35:59 AM »
And so? Unless one is absolutely obligated to do it why would would you admit such a person to the Jewish people?

I am definitely not qualified to answer the question. I don't know all the facts nor am I knowledgeable of how these things are decided (Would they also say that he has to give her a get lechumra just in case he is actually Jewish by maternal lineage?).

My son who is learning these subjects now heard it yesterday at a shiur. The person giving the shiur told them about this and said that he referred him to a different beis din for the giyur.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #204 on: March 22, 2022, 02:44:57 PM »
Beyond me why any self respecting Rabbi would touch anything to do with this guy with a ten foot pole
halevai giyurim were only done where they needed to be

unfortunately there's someone there to 'covnert' anyone...

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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2022, 12:54:42 AM »
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #206 on: April 01, 2022, 12:56:20 AM »
Apparently conversion was completed today.

FWIW I was told that his DNA tests seem to indicate distant Jewish (Lithuanian) ancestry.
1/1024 jewish?

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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #207 on: April 01, 2022, 01:54:40 AM »
1/1024 jewish?

Can a woman be 1/1024 pregnant?

If it's all matrilinial then one is Jewish. If there's a break in the matrilinial line, then non Jewish. If a sofek, then dayonim might decide to do a giyur, depending on the circumstances.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #208 on: April 01, 2022, 10:37:09 AM »
Can a woman be 1/1024 pregnant?

If it's all matrilinial then one is Jewish. If there's a break in the matrilinial line, then non Jewish. If a sofek, then dayonim might decide to do a giyur, depending on the circumstances.
Actually what @neveryou said isn't so far fetched

I once heard a Vort from the Vilna Gaon, he asks why does it say that a Mamzer isn't allowed into Kehal Hashem "even the tenth generation".
He answers that a Mamzer is 1/2 Issur, his child is 1/4 Issur, 3rd gen is 1/8, 4th gen is 1/16, 5th gen is 1/32, 6th gen is 1/64, 7th gen is 1/128, 8th gen is 1/256, 9th gen gen is 1/512 and 10th gen is 1/1024 Issur, the Torah doesn't want you should think that Mamzeirus can be Botul in 1,000 so it says גם דור עשירי לא יבוא בקהל ה'.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #209 on: April 01, 2022, 11:59:08 AM »
Actually what @neveryou said isn't so far fetched

I once heard a Vort from the Vilna Gaon, he asks why does it say that a Mamzer isn't allowed into Kehal Hashem "even the tenth generation".
He answers that a Mamzer is 1/2 Issur, his child is 1/4 Issur, 3rd gen is 1/8, 4th gen is 1/16, 5th gen is 1/32, 6th gen is 1/64, 7th gen is 1/128, 8th gen is 1/256, 9th gen gen is 1/512 and 10th gen is 1/1024 Issur, the Torah doesn't want you should think that Mamzeirus can be Botul in 1,000 so it says גם דור עשירי לא יבוא בקהל ה'.

Cute mathematics. The way I see it, אפילו באלף לא בטל/בטיל doesn’t specifically mean 1000, it’s like saying “one in a million” which is more of an idiom than a statistic. Even בטל בשישים can be argued to be an approximation of נותן טעם
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #210 on: April 01, 2022, 12:07:22 PM »
Even בטל בשישים can be argued to be an approximation of נותן טעם
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #211 on: April 01, 2022, 12:13:07 PM »
Cute mathematics. The way I see it, אפילו באלף לא בטל/בטיל doesn’t specifically mean 1000, it’s like saying “one in a million” which is more of an idiom than a statistic. Even בטל בשישים can be argued to be an approximation of נותן טעם
some Rishonim are of the opinion that a berya is botul in more than 1000x, they seemed to have taken the words literally.

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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #212 on: April 01, 2022, 12:28:46 PM »
some Rishonim are of the opinion that a berya is botul in more than 1000x, they seemed to have taken the words literally.
But we don't pasken that way.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #213 on: April 01, 2022, 12:42:35 PM »
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? Sephardim rely on a non Jewish cook for Tammoi Butel without Shishim

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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #214 on: April 01, 2022, 01:00:13 PM »
? Sephardim rely on a non Jewish cook for Tammoi Butel without Shishim
That is true because different items have different strengths of taste. That doesn't mean 60 is an estimation.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #215 on: April 03, 2022, 12:33:23 AM »
Speaking of sefardim



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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #218 on: April 03, 2022, 10:14:05 AM »
Speaking of sefardim




Well this explains why Lubavitchers don't say selichos in Tishrei either.
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Re: Newlywed sephardic woman in brooklyn discovers her husband may be muslim
« Reply #219 on: April 03, 2022, 12:15:40 PM »
Well this explains why Lubavitchers don't say selichos in Tishrei either.

https://www.jdn.co.il/news/world_news/1727846/