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Do you still support Trump after he called for disbanding the constitution to put him in power?

YES
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NO
43 (78.2%)

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Do you still support Trump?
« on: December 04, 2022, 12:37:48 PM »
At @jj1000 request I started a new thread with a poll.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 12:49:45 PM »
We were talking about a specific topic of overturing the constitution that you were talking about.

I'd guess most people seeing that poll don't even know about it...
Not understanding. Does this help?
https://tulsaworld.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/trump-rebuked-for-call-to-suspend-constitution-over-election/article_19e68d4b-2752-5af9-8852-0cc969e362c0.html
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 12:50:04 PM »
tbh, i dont support trump even before the constitution statement. theres better ppl out there and trump has gone off the deep end.

i loved him (read: many of his policies) when he was prez.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 01:01:51 PM »
tbh, i dont support trump even before the constitution statement. theres better ppl out there and trump has gone off the deep end.

i loved him (read: many of his policies) when he was prez.
I think this represents most orthodox Jews now. As can be seen from all the orthodox news sites taking this stance as well.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 01:06:34 PM »
I think this represents most orthodox Jews now. As can be seen from all the orthodox news sites taking this stance as well.

Contrary to @CountValentine logic ;)
I will keep an eye out in this forum and see who supported him before and now starts bashing him.

Is a basketball player re-tweeting antisemitic crap more dangerous than an ex-president and current candidate calling for abolishing parts of the constitution?   
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 01:09:28 PM »
I will keep an eye out in this forum and see who supported him before and now starts bashing him.
Hakaras hatov would indicate people won't bash him, but simply ignore and move on.

Is a basketball player re-tweeting antisemitic crap more dangerous than an ex-president and current candidate calling for abolishing parts of the constitution?   
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 01:10:20 PM »
If someone votes no is that an implicit admission they once supported Trump?

I don’t like how the question is worded at all. It seems to come with biases or the projection thereof.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2022, 01:18:07 PM »
If someone votes no is that an implicit admission they once supported Trump?
Yes. The poll is to see those that did supported him have now flipped with his insane remark about the constitution.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2022, 01:19:10 PM »
Hakaras hatov would indicate people won't bash him, but simply ignore and move on.
Does Hakaras hatov apply to R's and not D's?
Hakaras hatov would indicate people won't bash him, but simply ignore and move on.
More dangerous for who?
The country.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2022, 01:21:19 PM »
Does Hakaras hatov apply to R's and not D's?
Applies to anyone that did good things for you. I think many feel Trump did amazing things for the orthodox community.

The country.
Trump for sure.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2022, 01:22:37 PM »
I will keep an eye out in this forum and see who supported him before and now starts bashing him.

Is a basketball player re-tweeting antisemitic crap more dangerous than an ex-president and current candidate calling for abolishing parts of the constitution?
Why the need to bash him? He is a has been.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2022, 01:30:04 PM »
Why the need to bash him? He is a has been.
Has been? You are underestimating this guy.
They have no problem bashing Ye.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2022, 01:34:26 PM »
Has been? You are underestimating this guy.
They have no problem bashing Ye.
what did ye do for the orthodox community?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2022, 01:36:05 PM »
what did ye do for the orthodox community?
Have no idea and don't care. The comment was about bashing a has been.

Keep having posts that scream ME ME ME is not a good look.
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2022, 02:08:39 PM »
Fairly minor story, imo. He meant to say that the founding fathers would agree that an election result that was based on a faulty premise and only occurred due to mass corruption maliciously and illegally hiding information about a candidate that would have returned a totally different result should be rerun, just like a trial that returned a verdict based on false evidence would be retried. Do I think Trump is generally nuts, infantile, sickeningly narcissistic and solipsistic, and overall a distasteful and nasty person? Certainly. Do I think these statements are such a major story that should be a game changer to those supporting him thus far, or considering him the better of the two evils? Nah.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2022, 02:12:04 PM »


illegally hiding information about a candidate

Where did this happen?
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2022, 02:13:43 PM »

Where did this happen?

In Trump's mind

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2022, 02:14:47 PM »
In Trump's mind
Do yourself a favor, don't go there.

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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2022, 02:16:44 PM »
I was never a fan of trumps personally
But i love his policies
And this still stands
I don't like bidens personality and policies
It would be great if we can have a candidate with both personality and policies respected
But if its trump against Clinton/Biden he's got my vote
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Re: Do you still support Trump?
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2022, 02:42:05 PM »
Trump the person or Trump the polices?