ISRAEL-HAMAS SIMCHAT TORAH WAR NEWS AND DISCUSSION

[yfr bachur]

Did the assassination directly hit Iran? Or was it merely on Iranian soil? I understand that Hamas is a "proxy"  of Iran, in that case they would have their proxy retaliate, why is it a must for them to directly respond?

It hit a Govt/IRG safe house.

[Alexsei]

It hit a Govt/IRG safe house.

Then they really need to up their "foreign diplomat" protection program, firing on Israel won't solve that, sounds like they're almost as competent as the USSS

[yfr bachur]

Then they really need to up their "foreign diplomat" protection program, firing on Israel won't solve that, sounds like they're almost as competent as the USSS

It's two separate issues.
One is how to make sure it doesn't happen in the future.
Two is revenge/deterence

[aygart]

guys give us the last chapter please, thanks

All there in navi

[yelped]

Last time their missiles were mostly shot down. IMO Iran is just a roaring tiger who threatens more and do very little but still dangerous when cornered. Israel can exploit this time to form again a collision which will take down successfully the missiles when they'll launch their attack, and Iran will hunker down again telling their populace how successful their attack was. Going on the offensive with a major all out attack is extremely dangerous when dealing with jihads. Remember that shooting down short range missiles is much harder and they can send a barrage of thousands of these from Lebanon all over Israel C"V.

We don't have the right insight to know what the "right" decision is, but it definitely can't be taken lightly.  Fighting an enemy that doesn't respect international law makes it much harder, especially when you're expected to uphold to a standard of international law that does not exist. A coalition would be ideal, but is unrealistic at this time when the West refuses to recognize their enemy.

I used to think that "Know thy enemy" meant to learn their tactics, their strategies and put yourselves in their shoes and understand their train of thought. Now, I see it as simply saying to just recognize your enemy and know who it is and act upon it. Its unbelievable to see what is going on and is so easily preventable.

[EliJelly]

We don't have the right insight to know what the "right" decision is, but it definitely can't be taken lightly.  Fighting an enemy that doesn't respect international law makes it much harder, especially when you're expected to uphold to a standard of international law that does not exist. A coalition would be ideal, but is unrealistic at this time when the West refuses to recognize their enemy.

I used to think that "Know thy enemy" meant to learn their tactics, their strategies and put yourselves in their shoes and understand their train of thought. Now, I see it as simply saying to just recognize your enemy and know who it is and act upon it. Its unbelievable to see what is going on and is so easily preventable.

You stress on how difficult of an enemy this is but not on how to deal with that.

[yelped]

You stress on how difficult of an enemy this is but not on how to deal with that.

*on how difficult *you* think it is, or how to deal with it. It's the same thing, we don't really *know*.

[yelped]

To state the obvious:

https://x.com/elderofziyon/status/1820106466683969675

[yelped]

Why almost? Maybe that was the plan, a track a-la coal mines

Seems like you are right.

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1820441879772844095

[yelped]

This reminds me of when the Persians wanted to kill all the Jews in the month that Moshe died

Especially since it's the month that Aaron HaCohen was niftar.

[ilherman]

Can someone explain this to me?

There's all this discussion about the US withholding the 2000 pound bombs from Israel and Israel might need them if they open a real front in Lebanon.

Why doesn't Israel have their own factories to manufacturer these bombs??

[PlatinumGuy]

Can someone explain this to me?

There's all this discussion about the US withholding the 2000 pound bombs from Israel and Israel might need them if they open a real front in Lebanon.

Why doesn't Israel have their own factories to manufacturer these bombs??

It would come on account of more important priorities, and ultimately you depend on F35 parts anyways so the US can just withhold that.

[Sammy82]

Can someone explain this to me?

There's all this discussion about the US withholding the 2000 pound bombs from Israel and Israel might need them if they open a real front in Lebanon.

Why doesn't Israel have their own factories to manufacturer these bombs??

My guess (and that's all it is, a guess, so don't jump me) is that Israel gets money from the USA, as everybody knows. What many people don't know is that most of that money has to be spent on US-made ammunition and other such items. Israel can't take that money and buy from another country or even invest it in their own manufacturing. Furthermore, these are US-developed weapons so Israel would have to start from the ground up if they would like to create their own 2000lb (with all of the technology) bombs. Not that it can't be done but maybe they would rather put their money and chachmos elsewhere. There's only so much resources that they have and as long as the USA is pitching in, it works the way it has for many years. But maybe this saga will teach them not to rely on the US so much (in fact, I think I heard a few days ago that Israel signed a new multibillion(?) contract with a local defense company.

[EliJelly]

Can someone explain this to me?

There's all this discussion about the US withholding the 2000 pound bombs from Israel and Israel might need them if they open a real front in Lebanon.

Why doesn't Israel have their own factories to manufacturer these bombs??

If Israel will really need that for Lebanon the US will likely supply it. 

[yelped]

https://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1820520046499860884

[WayBackMachine]

It would come on account of more important priorities, and ultimately you depend on F35 parts anyways so the US can just withhold that.

Why does Israel get the F35 with its own customization?

[yelped]

Didn't find the MSM version of this:

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1820621826277482772

[EliJelly]

Didn't find the MSM version of this:

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1820621826277482772

Too busy de-escalating

[AsherO]

Why almost? Maybe that was the plan, a track a-la coal mines

Confirmed:
https://x.com/doron_kadosh/status/1820440038099837148

[Moshe Green]

Why does Israel get the F35 with its own customization?

Israel has special needs that other countries don't. Sometimes they even have to develop their own technologies but if they don't have to they just modify existing ones.