Non-Obvious Halachic Points that might be Very Relevant (please do not clutter)

[Gvann]

Battery operated candles definitely have their place in hospitals etc. but without a bracha

Because this comes out of it and its just false and someone will do the wrong thing because of it. You can post sources all you want one way or another but for everyone on here to argue as if they are a rav and paskining is just inappropriate

And its dumb for everyone to argue which way they think when at the end of the day each person clearly has to ask a rav because there are so many opinions each way

[aygart]

Because this comes out of it and its just false and someone will do the wrong thing because of it. You can post sources all you want one way or another but for everyone on here to argue as if they are a rav and paskining is just inappropriate

Maybe some are? Everyone is invited to use some sechel too

[Gvann]

Maybe some are? Everyone is invited to use some sechel too

I would hope no one is paskining a general shaila on the internet for everyone to follow.

That’s like saying I can go to mcdonalds because someone else seeing me will obviously know that im eating nonkosher and wont follow me in… (not saying that not making the bracha is like eating treif but just the idea of posting a psak as definite when it clearly is not is going to have the same repercussions when maybe their rav would have told them to make the bracha)

[aygart]

I would hope no one is paskining a general shaila on the internet for everyone to follow.

That’s like saying I can go to mcdonalds because someone else seeing me will obviously know that im eating nonkosher and wont follow me in… (not saying that not making the bracha is like eating treif but just the idea of posting a psak as definite when it clearly is not is going to have the same repercussions when maybe their rav would have told them to make the bracha)

If it's obvious that it shouldn't be a pay for everyone to follow them what is the big deal with posting it?

[imayid2]

I would hope no one is paskining a general shaila on the internet for everyone to follow.

Why?

[Gvann]

If it's obvious that it shouldn't be a pay for everyone to follow them what is the big deal with posting it?

you're the one who said its obvious im saying even if it would seem obvious to you it does not mean that someone else would think the same way.

[avromie7]

you're the one who said its obvious im saying even if it would seem obvious to you it does not mean that someone else would think the same way.

Why are you picking on internet posts when you can pick on the papers dumped in all the shuls instead?

[Gvann]

like i said for anyone to post a source (which is a rule on this thread btw) is great, creates topic for debate and can be confirmed or rebuttled with other sources, but to just "paskin" is not ok, it really should not be that hard to see why that could lead to very big issues

[Gvann]

Why are you picking on internet posts when you can pick on the papers dumped in all the shuls instead?

you should then be asking that to anyone who challenges anyone on this entire forum ever? is that not the point of a forum?

[imayid2]

but to just "paskin" is not ok, it really should not be that hard to see why that could lead to very big issues

What major issues can it lead to?

[HudZ]

I don't really understand this whole argument.

What's wrong with discussing Halacha? If anything, it's great that it's debated. No-one is telling you how to hold.
The object of this thread, in my eyes at least, is to arouse others of important Halachos that may not be well known, and it's your job to get a final conclusion. There should be no reason it can't be debated.
If someone comes onto an online forum and takes everything he reads as fact, from strangers nonetheless. That's on him.

[aygart]

I don't really understand this whole argument.

What's wrong with discussing Halacha? If anything, it's great that it's debated. No-one is telling you how to hold.
The object of this thread, in my eyes at least, is to arouse others of important Halachos that may not be well known, and it's your job to get a final conclusion. There should be no reason it can't be debated.
If someone comes onto an online forum and takes everything he reads as fact, from strangers nonetheless. That's on him.

Besides that there are a number of people here such as myself who it is known by many who they are.

[Gvann]

I don't really understand this whole argument.

What's wrong with discussing Halacha? If anything, it's great that it's debated. No-one is telling you how to hold.
The object of this thread, in my eyes at least, is to arouse others of important Halachos that may not be well known, and it's your job to get a final conclusion. There should be no reason it can't be debated.
If someone comes onto an online forum and takes everything he reads as fact, from strangers nonetheless. That's on him.

That is exactly what i have said this whole time… except that “no one is telling you how to hold” is not true

Battery operated candles definitely have their place in hospitals etc. but without a bracha

[aygart]

That is exactly what i have said this whole time… except that “no one is telling you how to hold” is not true

You are taking that post way too seriously.

[HudZ]

Besides that there are a number of people here such as myself who it is known by many who they are.

I wasn't referring to you. For those who are known, Kol Hakavod.

[Chuchum Ainer]

Discussing halacha is informative and fun, but some people are way too quick to post statements and pskei dinim, as opposed to svaros and named shitos.

Eg, writing a svarah to make or not make a bracha on LEDs is informative. Writing what your rav told you or what a certain rav says in his shut may be interesting.

Blithely writing that one way or the other is the halachic fact, is not helpful.

[HudZ]

except that “no one is telling you how to hold” is not true

Why?

[imayid2]

Discussing halacha is informative and fun, but some people are way too quick to post statements and pskei dinim, as opposed to svaros and named shitos.

Eg, writing a svarah to make or not make a bracha on LEDs is informative. Writing what your rav told you or what a certain rav says in his shut may be interesting.

Blithely writing that one way or the other is the halachic fact, is not helpful.

There are going to be many statements that are “not helpful” on an online forum. That doesn’t make them catastrophic and inappropriate.

[imayid2]

Also, it can helpfully incite others to post the opposite views, which adds more fun

[EliJelly]

Also, it can helpfully incite others to post the opposite views, which adds more fun

#somone-is-wrong-on-the-internet