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Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« on: April 01, 2024, 04:18:51 PM »
Inspired by RYBs's now yearly comment at the end of our matza chabura "B"H the matzos came out fine, I hope to need to bake new ones b'teharah" (paraphrasing), I thought it would be useful, meaningful and cool to start to create a list of stuff we're going to need to make pesach when moshiach comes, especialy things that maybe lesser known... Hopefully this will be relevant for this year, but even if not we can start to create our own "moshich bag" of needed things, especialy things that might be in short supply on short notice.

1. A sheep. (OK, everyone knows that  ;D)
2. Another sheep/ram/something... for a korbon chagiga
3. There just might be a shortage of shochtim, so learn how to shecht dakos
4. A straight pomegranate branch, to use as a spit for roasting the KP.
5. A Tahor, vertical? oven/roasting pit that fits an entire lamb
6. Shmura m'shas Ketzira Flour (by def not huchshar lekabel tumah)
7. Keilim for making matza that are either not mekabel tuma or are tovelable
8. Tahor Maror. (Maybe the best way is to grow our own? or will the bugs make it tamei the second you wash it?)

What else?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2024, 04:23:18 PM »
On that note.
Very nice video, brings the making of the Korban Pesach to life
https://www.kolhalashon.com/new/Media/PlayShiur.aspx?FileName=33323450&Video=True&Lang=English

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2024, 04:25:46 PM »
or will the bugs make it tamei the second you wash it?)

Why would bugs make it tamei?
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2024, 04:29:09 PM »
Why would bugs make it tamei?

If they're dead?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2024, 04:34:43 PM »
If they're dead?
Is your maror infested with the shemonah sheratzim?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2024, 04:35:15 PM »
Is your maror infested with the shemonah sheratzim?

Lettuce?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2024, 04:37:41 PM »
Create groups for each karbon and designate a place where it will be eaten. ( can’t change places once you start to eat).

The kohanim will likely need to set up a very very stream lined process as there is less then 6 hours to be makriv all the karbonos.

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2024, 04:40:08 PM »
Lettuce?

Which of the 8 do you think you will find more than the size of an adasha.
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2024, 05:35:35 PM »
Create groups for each karbon and designate a place where it will be eaten. ( can’t change places once you start to eat).

I remember vaugely that it needs to be on the ground?
So how do our modern apt buildings work? on the bottom level of the basement?

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2024, 05:43:21 PM »
Which of the 8 do you think you will find more than the size of an adasha.

Es chatoai ani mazkir - I've never really learned taharos.
Is this still true if its a compleate beria?
Or am I confusing with bitul by eating?
« Last Edit: April 01, 2024, 05:49:19 PM by yfr bachur »

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2024, 05:45:06 PM »
There are so many more things to think of like karbanos taharas zav, zava, yoledes, having the ability to wear, sleep on, sit on items that are not tamei midras, learn how to do bedikas hazav
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2024, 05:53:04 PM »
(שוב מצאתי ספר קטן וחומש שמו)...
none of the shmona sheratzim are bugs IINM, all rodents/reptiles

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2024, 06:08:37 PM »
Es chatoai ani mazkir - I've never really learned taharos.
Is this still true if its a compleate beria?

I don't think any of the 8 are found complete as less than an adasha
ETA: The shiur of adasha is because that is the minimum size at tchilas briyaso.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2024, 06:12:32 PM by aygart »
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2024, 06:13:50 PM »
Or am I confusing with bitul by eating?

The Shach explains (from Tarcei Moshe and Issur Vheter haaruch etc) that an adasha of shmona shratzim has a din berya because that is the shiur tuma
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2024, 01:01:10 AM »
Paid my Mizrachi baal dira yesterday. Reminded me that last year, payment was a few days (daze?) before Pesach. I asked him how his Pesach prep is going, and he responded that they already have a sheep for their chaburah in case Mashiach comes.

Though at that point, I assume it would have been brought betumah. There's still time this year! @aygart is right; leave korbanos for the kohanim and learn tumaah and tahara first. @yfr bachur - you up for a chavrusah shaft?
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2024, 01:22:14 AM »
You should start practicing hefshet v'nituach. Also be prepared to do hadacha.

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2024, 01:36:41 AM »
Wouldn't all the avodah be done by the thousands of holy and experienced kohanim who will stand up בתחיית המתים until we 2024 mostly amei horatzim yidden will catch up on all of that? Not trying to diminish the excitement of getting prepared and learned to be ready for the task, but that's how I feel about it. Your thoughts? 

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2024, 03:15:14 AM »
There are so many more things to think of like karbanos taharas zav, zava, yoledes, having the ability to wear, sleep on, sit on items that are not tamei midras, learn how to do bedikas hazav
We will literally need to toivel our whole house, car, and office...

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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2024, 03:24:20 AM »
Wouldn't all the avodah be done by the thousands of holy and experienced kohanim who will stand up בתחיית המתים until we 2024 mostly amei horatzim yidden will catch up on all of that? Not trying to diminish the excitement of getting prepared and learned to be ready for the task, but that's how I feel about it. Your thoughts?
Intriguing thought. IIRC though that there are other versions of yemos hamashiach that place techias hameisim later on. But still, intriguing.
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Re: Korbon Pesach Prepper Master Thread
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2024, 07:57:28 AM »
Paid my Mizrachi baal dira yesterday. Reminded me that last year, payment was a few days (daze?) before Pesach. I asked him how his Pesach prep is going, and he responded that they already have a sheep for their chaburah in case Mashiach comes.

Though at that point, I assume it would have been brought betumah. There's still time this year! @aygart is right; leave korbanos for the kohanim and learn tumaah and tahara first. @yfr bachur - you up for a chavrusah shaft?

We only bring btumas meis not tumas zav or mechusar kipurim
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