Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread

[schneury]

I believe all the heimisshe, any national do?

some of the heimishe write clearly on tuna that it’s mashgiach temidi but I haven’t seen them write it on lox.

[avromie7]

some of the heimishe write clearly on tuna that it’s mashgiach temidi but I haven’t seen them write it on lox.

All Tuna with a heimishe hechsher (and OU-P) has a mashgiach temidi and bishul yisroel. Tuna is a much bigger issue than salmon, because it doesn't have the color as a siman.

[schneury]

All Tuna with a heimishe hechsher (and OU-P) has a mashgiach temidi and bishul yisroel. Tuna is a much bigger issue than salmon, because it doesn't have the color as a siman.

I understand that but I would expect them to write it on lox if they indeed have a mashgiach temidi

[Alexsei]

some of the heimishe write clearly on tuna that it’s mashgiach temidi but I haven’t seen them write it on lox.

Hisachdus required MT

[moko]

Hisachdus required MT

just for clarification purposes... Only once the fillets are skinned. This can happen immediately before slicing and packing which significantly cuts down on hashgacha costs
If the fillets are skinned and then cured, hashgacha costs skyrocket

[aygart]

All Tuna with a heimishe hechsher (and OU-P) has a mashgiach temidi and bishul yisroel. Tuna is a much bigger issue than salmon, because it doesn't have the color as a siman.

I don't think the color can help once it is cured.

[Alexsei]

just for clarification purposes... Only once the fillets are skinned. This can happen immediately before slicing and packing which significantly cuts down on hashgacha costs
If the fillets are skinned and then cured, hashgacha costs skyrocket

Makes sense as the requirement for MT is for the simanim, I never thought they would slice after curing.

Are any others requiring MT?

[Alexsei]

I don't think the color can help once it is cured.

So those that accept the color as a siman, it must be cured and packaged with a mashgiach, albeit without skin?

[moko]

Makes sense as the requirement for MT is for the simanim, I never thought they would slice after curing.

Are any others requiring MT?

slicing always takes place after curing. Skinning and trimming, sometimes

[TheAsh]

Question:

Why don't the OU and other national organizations put video cameras in the dairies they certify, allowing the milk to be chalav yisrael according to many shitos and minimal expense?

[Alexsei]

Question:

Why don't the OU and other national organizations put video cameras in the dairies they certify, allowing the milk to be chalav yisrael according to many shitos and minimal expense?

Great question, perhaps according to their shitos cameras don't render the milk chalav Yisroel 🤔

[moko]

Question:

Why don't the OU and other national organizations put video cameras in the dairies they certify, allowing the milk to be chalav yisrael according to many shitos and minimal expense?

this was asked at the OU office by the chief rabbinate. OU doesn't hold of cameras for CY.
Also, logistically it would be difficult. Depending on the processing facility, they may be receiving milk from over 50 farms.

[Alexsei]

this was asked at the OU office by the chief rabbinate. OU doesn't hold of cameras for CY.
Also, logistically it would be difficult. Depending on the processing facility, they may be receiving milk from over 50 farms.

ברוך שכיוונתי לדברי ר' מאקא

[TheAsh]

this was asked at the OU office by the chief rabbinate. OU doesn't hold of cameras for CY.
Also, logistically it would be difficult. Depending on the processing facility, they may be receiving milk from over 50 farms.

But some do. Why not implement it? (I do understand the logistics answer tho).

[moko]

But some do. Why not implement it? (I do understand the logistics answer tho).

Same reason they don't install constant heating elements for PY even though all national agencies besides OU hold it's good for PY.

[yelped]

Same reason they don't install constant heating elements for PY even though all national agencies besides OU hold it's good for PY.

All national agencies? I didn't know that.

OU also allows it, but only if it generates "real" heat of 174°. The others all allow it at any temperature?

[moko]

All national agencies? I didn't know that.

OU also allows it, but only if it generates "real" heat of 174°. The others all allow it at any temperature?

in the entire oven. Other agencies will allow a single element for a 50ft tunnel oven

[ushdadude]

in the entire oven. Other agencies will allow a single element for a 50ft tunnel oven

others besides the Star-K?

[lover of truth]

this was asked at the OU office by the chief rabbinate. OU doesn't hold of cameras for CY.
Also, logistically it would be difficult. Depending on the processing facility, they may be receiving milk from over 50 farms.

pretty shocking
bec r mordechai gross is basically the head posek for ou today and he was the first to institute cameras. if you ask me there is a different reason here

[moko]

pretty shocking
 r mordechai gross is basically the head posek for ou

nonsense. As much as R Asher Weiss is also a poisek for OU .
There's only one poisek for OU. Vhameivin yavin