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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2010, 05:56:31 PM »
I applied for and got the penfed amex card. I asked for the benefit guide (which doesnt come with the card for some reason) so they printed it out and mailed it. It lists coverage for rental cars, worldwide. There are no exclusions as far as I could tell of any countries.
One thing it does exclude are "loss of use" claims. I'm not sure if the israeli companies charge that or not.
Anyone else know about this?


Unless the rental agency in Israel knows your card specifically includes Israel (like most World Mastercards) they can still force you to take out CDW.

Try to get in writing that Israel is included.
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #101 on: August 25, 2010, 06:59:32 PM »
Unless the rental agency in Israel knows your card specifically includes Israel (like most World Mastercards) they can still force you to take out CDW.

Try to get in writing that Israel is included.

 I can say w/o a Doubt that Avis Israel will Only accept a WMC , if a person can get it in writing that another CC will cover the CDW I advise sending the info in before you get over there and with enough time for them to contact whatever Ins or CC it is to Verify that they will cover You for CDW, otherwise I agree with Dan (after I told him a # of times in the past) that either you agree to pay for the CDW they offer you or "No Car for You"

 having something that says you are covered Im afraid wont cut it as ask SF its too easy to print up whatever you want to today , they will want to have it verified from those who will be covering it for you, and picking up a car 7 hrs ahead of NY means most likley nobody will be able to fax or tell them its covered when they call the US

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #102 on: August 26, 2010, 03:43:55 AM »
well, by my last rental at avis tlv, they told me that my wmc doesnt cover me anymore. when i still insisted it does, i had to sign a paper stating that i think my cc covers me. i cant imagine then why it should be different with another card

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #103 on: August 26, 2010, 05:52:16 AM »
"I can't imagine", "Israel", and "rental car" should never be used in the same post. Last time I rented, my total didn't equal the rate I was quoted, the guy told me they charge $3 a day WMC insurance (he totally made it up on the spot, but that's sort of my point)

Something to keep in mind when renting, even in the US. Reps get commission on insurance sold. Since all rental card companies have their cars fully insured, the insurance charge is pure profit, so they offer heavy incentives to their agents. I was once in the back office of an enterprise location, and there was a huge board, like the sales bored at car dealerships, with each employees name and how many "policies" they sold that week (or month?). So they may bend the truth a little to get the extra commission.
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2010, 09:18:05 AM »
well, by my last rental at avis tlv, they told me that my wmc doesnt cover me anymore. when i still insisted it does, i had to sign a paper stating that i think my cc covers me. i cant imagine then why it should be different with another card

 Thats great news, BTW when a res was made with Avis over here they still asked if I have a WMC to cover the CDW this was on Tues

  The problem is alot of people dont know that their Chase CO WMC doesnt cover any longer and if like me you used the old card it still worked. So it probably became too time consuming for them to keep track of which CCs still are good and which arent and then trying to get those who have a CC that no longers covers it to believe them that will need to buy their CDW

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #105 on: August 27, 2010, 10:20:37 AM »
Unless the rental agency in Israel knows your card specifically includes Israel (like most World Mastercards) they can still force you to take out CDW.

Try to get in writing that Israel is included.

Here is the question I asked:

Regarding my Amex card, does the rental card coverage include
Israel? This country is excluded by some credit cards, so I would like to
clarify. Thank you.

And the goyishe kop answer:
Thank you for contacting Pentagon Federal Credit Union.

This coverage is offered through Visa. Please see the following link for more
information.
http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/benefits/bft_dmg_waiver_personal.html


Since I doubt that visa is providing the coverage for amex, I could pursue it again, but i think I give up for the time being.

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2010, 12:08:09 PM »
Here is the question I asked:

Regarding my Amex card, does the rental card coverage include
Israel? This country is excluded by some credit cards, so I would like to
clarify. Thank you.

And the goyishe kop answer:
Thank you for contacting Pentagon Federal Credit Union.

This coverage is offered through Visa. Please see the following link for more
information.
http://usa.visa.com/personal/cards/benefits/bft_dmg_waiver_personal.html


Since I doubt that visa is providing the coverage for amex, I could pursue it again, but i think I give up for the time being.
It's not a real AMEX.  It's very possible that the coverage is through Visa.
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #107 on: August 29, 2010, 12:43:18 AM »
It's not a real AMEX.  It's very possible that the coverage is through Visa.

What kind of  Amex is it?
In any event the terms listed on the visa site are not the same as what they mailed to me.

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #108 on: August 29, 2010, 07:53:20 PM »
 although I was accepted last Fri for the Citi AA WMC I got an email yesterday saying SOL. So I tried to get the Bronze today no annual fee $2 per mile. Need it just for the CDW, was told they arent issuing it any more. So I called up as a friend whose Bronze is in my posssesion and no problem they are sending my son-in-law a CC in his name = not having to pay for CDW in Israel also means not earning a few hundred miles a yr but well worth it till I can find a WMC that works for me

 Im the son-in-law  8)

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #109 on: August 29, 2010, 07:56:36 PM »
although I was accepted last Fri for the Citi AA WMC I got an email yesterday saying SOL. So I tried to get the Bronze today no annual fee $2 per mile. Need it just for the CDW, was told they arent issuing it any more. So I called up as a friend whose Bronze is in my posssesion and no problem they are sending my son-in-law a CC in his name = not having to pay for CDW in Israel also means not earning a few hundred miles a yr but well worth it till I can find a WMC that works for me

 Im the son-in-law  8)
I believe the CO business WMC includes CDW for Israel still.
Not positive, but that's what I understood from COInsider.  Be sure to confirm if you go for that card.
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #110 on: August 29, 2010, 08:01:27 PM »
I believe the CO business WMC includes CDW for Israel still.
Not positive, but that's what I understood from COInsider.  Be sure to confirm if you go for that card.

 $85 while the Bronze is $0

 but I will search around to see if Gary or someone has a no fee app, Thanks

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #111 on: August 29, 2010, 08:39:21 PM »
$85 while the Bronze is $0

 but I will search around to see if Gary or someone has a no fee app, Thanks
25,000 miles would probably cover the $85 fee...
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #112 on: August 29, 2010, 09:18:24 PM »
25,000 miles would probably cover the $85 fee...

 its 20k not 25k and I dont want a fee CC got enough

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #114 on: August 29, 2010, 09:33:37 PM »
25K:
https://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/products/chase/smallbusiness.aspx?offer=BC00&mkid=6LBN



 never thought Id see you promoting paying .035 per RDM , for free yes for $85 Id stick with the Citi AA Bronze and earn nothing since its not my acct.

 heres the 1 I saw on CO.com as well https://www.continental.com/CMS/en-US/Marketing/CustComm/Promotions/Pages/CreditPartners.aspx

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #115 on: August 29, 2010, 09:37:25 PM »
never thought Id see you promoting paying .035 per RDM
I'd pay a third of a cent per mile each and every day if I could...
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #116 on: August 29, 2010, 09:46:42 PM »
I'd pay a third of a cent per mile each and every day if I could...

 so would I but that would be .0035 and not .035 (35 cents is .35) 3 1/2 cents is .035

 although I will be there 12 days , I will return the car erev ST no need to pay for YT, erev Shabbos , Shabbos and return it  at 2am on Sun morn . Alot cheaper to run with cabs if I need to. And they turn the clock back so not much 1 can do erev YT or Shabbos like other times Im there. So max I lose <200 miles , I like that better then paying the $85. Now what happens comes 2011 pay the $85 and no Miles , when the Citi Bronze hopefully will still be good and cost $0
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #117 on: August 29, 2010, 10:03:57 PM »
so would I but that would be .0035 and not .035 (35 cents is .35) 3 1/2 cents is .035
Check your math.  85/25,000=.0034
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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #118 on: August 29, 2010, 11:27:48 PM »
Check your math.  85/25,000=.0034

 Yep another 1 Blown by me I was using 2500 and not 25000

ok its a good purchase but I still went with the CitiBronze this afternoon, but will keep my eye out if they put this CC up with no annual fee. Didnt find any Chase CO right now not charging the Fee

 dont really need the miles and I want to get Chases PC Visa might need it to Crack My Case, will probably go for it after I get the PC

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Re: Best Mastercard World For Free CDW Coverage In Israel?
« Reply #119 on: September 02, 2010, 02:01:02 PM »
 Will I get the Citi AA WMC or not?

Applied last Thurs when I was booking a couple of award tkts for a friend out of my acct, (they were Gifted and he nows wants to Gift me back the miles via his SPG acct, I accepted just wanted to save him $125 in close booking fees)

 anyway I applied for the Citi AA WMC need it to cover my CDW in TLV and was Approved, then on Sat they sent me an email saying Sorry you already had it and No Way Hosea, then today in the mail I got a letter with the last 4 digits and telling me the CC should be here within 7-10 days.

 Wonder how it will end, my gut says no CC and the letter was due to being Approved but before they ran it to see I already had it and that the email will be the way it ends