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Do you think George Zimmerman will be convicted?

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #240 on: July 14, 2013, 06:59:59 PM »
You just called AA's them, as if they are a breed, and you can't understand "them" until you live with them. As if they are all the same...

I don't see a problem with referring to AA's as "them", in the same way I would refer to any community, group or race. The only way it would be a problem is if I had stated something negative about "them". However, I have stated nothing negative, all I stated was that if you want to talk AA "targeting", you first need to know AA's.

But now that we've come this far, I will explain that statement. (And this is not some "damage control" explanation, this is explaining what I meant when I wrote the statement).

Count Valentine appears to be extraordinarily naive about the Trayvon Martin incident. The message I and many other people here are trying to get across to Count Valentine, is that if you know what goes on in some AA communities, you would find this story a complete racial game. When you live among AA's, you know that their biggest threat is from WITHIN. I have an AA neighbor, great guy, very courteous older fellow who openly tells me all the time that he is fortunate to live among us, because in his own neighborhoods, he would fear for his life.

Be that as it may, just like any other community, they look for leadership to help them out. But their leaders know their weakness: race. That's right: if you want to become a leader of many AA communities, just get up and speak about how AA's are being racially profiled, and suddenly you are a hero. As long as they will follow their rabble-rouser leaders, they will never get to the "post-racial" era. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson do nothing but perpetuate hate and racial divide.

As for Count Valentine's claim that if Martin would be a Jew we would feel differently about it:

Let's tell the tale this way: Imagine a Jewish family hired an AA social worker or tutor for their children, and this social worker subsequently molests a child in the family. The crime is discovered, and the social worker is put before a Jury of 5 AA's and 1 Hispanic. The social worker is then acquitted due to lack of evidence. Would Dov Hikind scream "anti semitism"? Would this attract national attention?

1) Hell no. People don't molest out of hate or anti-semitism. They molest because of some sickness in their mind.
2) Hell no. Attracting national attention would only serve to embarrass the local communities who are plagued from WITHIN with sexual abuse. As a matter of fact, they may even feel that the reason for the acquittal is to to their own issues of covering these episodes up for so many years.

After all this back and forth with Count Valentine, I have come to the conclusion that his insistence that there is "something more" to this story is coming from the fact that he doesn't know sh*t about AA's and AA communities. Rather, he lives in some sheltered "white" community, all the while preaching how everyone else is thinking in a "closed minded" fashion.



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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #241 on: July 14, 2013, 07:00:54 PM »
Oh my...your profile has no need to say Brooklyn when your posts scream it :D

Well... It could be Chicago. But yes, it is Brooklyn.

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #242 on: July 14, 2013, 07:02:24 PM »
Well... It could be Chicago. But yes, it is Brooklyn.
actually, where most of the frum population in chicago resides we don't have too much trash

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Re: George Zimmerman
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #244 on: July 14, 2013, 07:09:08 PM »
actually, where most of the frum population in chicago resides we don't have too much trash
Have you ever been to Cabrini–Green or Green Gardens? Zale would not make it out of either place in one piece.
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #245 on: July 14, 2013, 07:11:24 PM »
After all this back and forth with Count Valentine, I have come to the conclusion that his insistence that there is "something more" to this story is coming from the fact that he doesn't know sh*t about AA's and AA communities. Rather, he lives in some sheltered "white" community, all the while preaching how everyone else is thinking in a "closed minded" fashion.
Your stupidity is only surpassed by your ignorance. How about all the members hear thought there would be riots? You don’t understand this community.
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #246 on: July 14, 2013, 07:12:11 PM »
Have you ever been to Cabrini–Green or Green Gardens? Zale would not make it out of either place in one piece.
actually I have.
actually, where most of the frum population in chicago resides we don't have too much trash
google it then add it to your thread

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #247 on: July 14, 2013, 07:13:24 PM »
Your stupidity is only surpassed by your ignorance. How about all the members hear thought there would be riots? You don’t understand this community.

"here", not "hear".

And yes, there still may be riots. I was not one of the ones who predicted riots, but I have no reason to believe that it won't happen. (See: King, Rodney).

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #248 on: July 14, 2013, 07:14:48 PM »
Your stupidity is only surpassed by your ignorance. How about all the members hear thought there would be riots? You don’t understand this community.

Oakland CA, Windows samshed, fires started.... I guess that's nothing. (besides for them burning both the US and CA flag)

If it were a bunch of the "true" minorty doing this i.e white males, you would of heard alot more about this.
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #249 on: July 14, 2013, 07:18:36 PM »
And yes, there still may be riots. I was not one of the ones who predicted riots, but I have no reason to believe that it won't happen. (See: King, Rodney).
Do you understand RK was beat to shreds by cops? This was in an economically depressed area that was ready to explode before the RK incident. You have no knowledge of these communities so it would be best you stop now.
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #250 on: July 14, 2013, 07:25:41 PM »
Do you understand RK was beat to shreds by cops? This was in an economically depressed area that was ready to explode before the RK incident. You have no knowledge of these communities so it would be best you stop now.

Oh, so that gives them the right to go and destroy property of innocent civilians?

Only a twisted mind would legitimize this behavior. I didn't see any white people or Jews protesting the O.J. Simpson verdict.

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #251 on: July 14, 2013, 07:26:44 PM »
Do you understand RK was beat to shreds by cops? This was in an economically depressed area that was ready to explode before the RK incident. You have no knowledge of these communities so it would be best you stop now.

Out of curiosity, can you explain your background vis a vis such communities, and why you feel you more qualified to speak on these matters than anyone else here? It'd be a lot easier to talk credibly if you would just lay it out for us instead of implying it the whole time.

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #252 on: July 14, 2013, 07:28:38 PM »
Oh, so that gives them the right to go and destroy property of innocent civilians?

Only a twisted mind would legitimize this behavior.
What are you talking about. I gave you some insight to how this happen, nothing more.

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #253 on: July 14, 2013, 07:29:18 PM »
Out of curiosity, can you explain your background vis a vis such communities, and why you feel you more qualified to speak on these matters than anyone else here? It'd be a lot easier to talk credibly if you would just lay it out for us instead of implying it the whole time.

He's a lib. And to boot he's white. 1+1 =2
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #254 on: July 14, 2013, 07:36:04 PM »
He's a lib. And to boot he's white. 1+1 =2
You got one out of two right. Want to try your luck on which one?  :)
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #255 on: July 14, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »
He's a lib. And to boot he's white. 1+1 =2

+1

It's awesome to watch the liberal media going crazy now. They don't know what to do with themselves. It's like a spoiled kid who's parents finally tell him "no"!

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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #256 on: July 14, 2013, 07:37:32 PM »
Out of curiosity, can you explain your background vis a vis such communities, and why you feel you more qualified to speak on these matters than anyone else here? It'd be a lot easier to talk credibly if you would just lay it out for us instead of implying it the whole time.
Should I start with racist roots?
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #257 on: July 14, 2013, 07:37:46 PM »
You got one out of two right. Want to try your luck on which one?  :)

You don't consider yourself a lib?
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #258 on: July 14, 2013, 07:38:17 PM »
Should I start with racist roots?

So its guilt thats causing this reaction?
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Re: George Zimmerman
« Reply #259 on: July 14, 2013, 07:41:19 PM »
You got one out of two right. Want to try your luck on which one?  :)

But seriously, am I wrong to think you've been implying that you have specific experiences that give you better insight into a case like this?