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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2800 on: March 01, 2023, 02:01:37 AM »
Tom's River is batul to Lakewood.
Tom's River is punkt the future of Lakewood.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2801 on: March 01, 2023, 02:02:18 AM »
Tom's River is batul to Lakewood.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2802 on: March 01, 2023, 02:05:33 AM »
*Getting even angrier than livid emoji*
Go to Lakewood and learn some mussar. It'll help you with the midda of ka'as.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2803 on: March 01, 2023, 02:10:26 AM »
Go to Lakewood and learn some mussar. It'll help you with the midda of ka'as.
Why Lakewood? Isn't Toms River a suburb of Philly?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2804 on: March 01, 2023, 02:45:38 AM »
Why Lakewood? Isn't Toms River a suburb of Philly?
You're not on a high enough level to feel Lakewood in Tom's River. If you start learning mussar in Lakewood, after a week you should start feeling the kedusha in Tom's River

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2805 on: March 01, 2023, 03:24:01 AM »
I think some Toms River residents may be very insulted that you are posting about them in a Lakewood thread. Do people post about Deal people in a Lakewood thread? How come people conflate Lakewood residents and Toms River residents?!
Half this thread is about Westgate which is practically in Jackson. Until Toms River and Jackson fully build out their own frum infrastructure- schools, retail, etc. so that Toms River residents shop in Toms River stores, their kids go to Toms River schools, and their drivers stop clogging up Lakewood roads, they are all effectively part of Lakewood and itís future.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2806 on: March 01, 2023, 08:00:16 AM »
I'm amused that this is evolving into a serious conversation. My posts were intended at poking fun at what I perceive is a desire among some Toms River residents to be separate from Lakewood, specifically in terms of politics. They want to portray to the secular community - perhaps wisely - that we are not them, and don't think we are coming here to overpopulate and make traffic.

Just one case in point - when they started some sort of vaad, there was a meeting of rabbonim. Rav Malkiel Kotler was in attendance, because they wanted his guidance and direction. But they specifically didn't release pictures of Rav Malkiel there (not just to the *oop who never posts pictures of the Rosh Yeshiva, but even to other outlets), because they didn't want the wider community to see them as just an extension of Lakewood.

I don't live in Toms River, and my posts were meant to be funny. I guess I sometimes miss the mark.  :-[

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2808 on: March 01, 2023, 02:03:30 PM »
I don't live in Toms River, and my posts were meant to be funny. I guess I sometimes miss the mark.  :-[
Likewise

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2809 on: March 03, 2023, 07:51:14 AM »
Really interesting opinion from the NJ Appellate Division yesterday, which could be a green light to many more wedding halls popping up around you.

https://www.njcourts.gov/sites/default/files/court-opinions/2023/a3509-20.pdf

What's especially significant is that after they rejected the appeal for a bunch of technical reasons, they added that a paragraph stating specifically that a Simcha Hall is an accessory to a school and does not need any variance. (This is the last paragraph of the the opinion, on page 9.) This basically means that since schools are allowable use in ANY Lakewood district, a hall could be built in any school and the board is legally obligated to approve it.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2810 on: March 03, 2023, 08:30:58 AM »


and the board is legally obligated to approve it.

I think it means you need planning not zoning or maybe the other way around.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2811 on: March 04, 2023, 12:28:56 PM »
Really interesting opinion from the NJ Appellate Division yesterday, which could be a green light to many more wedding halls popping up around you.

https://www.njcourts.gov/sites/default/files/court-opinions/2023/a3509-20.pdf

What's especially significant is that after they rejected the appeal for a bunch of technical reasons, they added that a paragraph stating specifically that a Simcha Hall is an accessory to a school and does not need any variance. (This is the last paragraph of the the opinion, on page 9.) This basically means that since schools are allowable use in ANY Lakewood district, a hall could be built in any school and the board is legally obligated to approve it.
https://lnnnews.com/nj-appellate-court-rules-simcha-halls-are-valid-accessory-use-to-schools-no-variance-needed/

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2813 on: March 04, 2023, 08:45:39 PM »
I always wonder what the beliefs of these young adults/kids are. I'd love to take a poll.
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2814 on: March 04, 2023, 10:33:33 PM »
I always wonder what the beliefs of these young adults/kids are. I'd love to take a poll.
"beliefs"?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2815 on: March 04, 2023, 11:00:39 PM »
"beliefs"?
Yes. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the quotes. That it's not set at the moment by them? If so, then that's included
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2816 on: March 04, 2023, 11:26:06 PM »
Yes. I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the quotes. That it's not set at the moment by them? If so, then that's included
I just wasn't sure what you meant by that...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2817 on: March 06, 2023, 07:45:44 AM »
Really interesting opinion from the NJ Appellate Division yesterday, which could be a green light to many more wedding halls popping up around you.

https://www.njcourts.gov/sites/default/files/court-opinions/2023/a3509-20.pdf

What's especially significant is that after they rejected the appeal for a bunch of technical reasons, they added that a paragraph stating specifically that a Simcha Hall is an accessory to a school and does not need any variance. (This is the last paragraph of the the opinion, on page 9.) This basically means that since schools are allowable use in ANY Lakewood district, a hall could be built in any school and the board is legally obligated to approve it.
https://lakewoodalerts.com/explainer-no-a-judge-didnt-just-legalize-all-simcha-halls-in-schools/

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