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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2840 on: March 28, 2023, 07:02:22 PM »
Rabbi Eisemann finally got oral arguments scheduled at the Appellate Division, the week after Pesach
https://lnnnews.com/oral-arguments-scheduled-in-rabbi-eisemanns-appeal/

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2842 on: April 22, 2023, 11:25:48 PM »
Rabbi Eisemann finally got oral arguments scheduled at the Appellate Division, the week after Pesach
Hearing before the Appellate Division is scheduled for Tuesday morning. This is a really pivotal time. If you remember, last time he was before the Appellate Division they really messed him up...

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2843 on: April 23, 2023, 12:53:54 AM »
Hearing before the Appellate Division is scheduled for Tuesday morning. This is a really pivotal time. If you remember, last time he was before the Appellate Division they really messed him up...
name for tehilim?

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2844 on: April 23, 2023, 12:59:07 AM »
name for tehilim?
Osher ben Chana Frumet

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2845 on: April 23, 2023, 01:39:29 AM »
Seeing Rabbi Eisemann the past few days and really throughout this entire ordeal is seeing a living Chovos Halvovos.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2846 on: April 24, 2023, 02:07:43 PM »
Hearing before the Appellate Division is scheduled for Tuesday morning. This is a really pivotal time. If you remember, last time he was before the Appellate Division they really messed him up...

Atzeres Teffilah tonight in Ateres Esther (basement of BMG’s Hertzka building) at 10:30 tonight.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2847 on: April 24, 2023, 06:57:53 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2848 on: April 24, 2023, 08:05:25 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2849 on: April 25, 2023, 09:35:56 AM »
Hearing is starting now. Please say a kapitil Tehillim for Osher ben Chana Frumit

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2850 on: April 25, 2023, 02:32:23 PM »
https://lnnnews.com/critical-hearing-in-rabbi-eisemanns-case-on-tuesday/

The critical hearing in the case of Rabbi Osher Eisemann has concluded this morning. The appellate judges asked probing questions of the prosecutors, and seemed skeptical of their basis for appeal.

Although the hearing went positively, the conclusion is far from granted, and the tzibbur must not let up on tefillos, even for a moment. “It was clear that the tefillos Yisroel were there in the courtroom, giving siyata d’shmaya to the defense team,” a person present told LNN. “The decision of the judges cannot be predicted, and the tefillos remain desperately needed.”

The hearing lasted less than an hour, commencing at 9:35 and wrapping up by 10:20. The three judges asked difficult questions to the prosecution, including the pointed query- “If the trial would be held today, would you turn over the piece of evidence you had left out?”

Prosecutors told the appeals court that the decision by Judge Joseph Paone to invalidate the two convictions based on new evidence, should be overturned. Their argument was that the Judge Paone had erred, caused in part by the fact that he was not the trial judge, and that he was therefore not fully familiar with the facts of the case when he tossed the verdicts.

Defense attorney Lee Vartan argued that Paone had spent months studying the case and its testimony -while the appeals court had allotted less than an hour. Certainly, Paone was in a better position to make the decision that the appellate judges.

Vartan also pointed out that Paone had been in the judge’s chair, instead of trial judge Benjamin Bucca- only because the prosecution had complained. It was the prosecutors who appealed Bucca’s sentence, and demanded that Bucca recuse himself when the case was remanded for reconsideration.

The three appellate judges did not ask many questions of the defense.

The presiding judge, Thomas Sumners, said a decision would be delivered within 30 days. It is unknown what that decision will be, and the situation remains precarious at best. The only certainty is that all outcomes are in the hands of Shamayim, and the only effective hishtadlus is the tefillos of the tzibbur.

Please continue davening for Osher ben Chana Frumit.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2851 on: April 25, 2023, 07:34:51 PM »
Contrary to the online reports, I don' think the appeal hearing was a slam dunk. Yes, the judges asked very pointed questions to the prosecution, but there was a lot more than that in the hearing. I would say that Eisemann has what to be hopeful for, but I don't think it is in any way a forgone conclusion that he won the appeal.

We really need to keep davening

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2853 on: April 26, 2023, 07:11:22 PM »
I love this guy. I think they should put him up to talk more...

https://thelakewoodscoop.com/news/eisemann-attorney-comments-following-tuesdays-hearing-video/

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2854 on: May 09, 2023, 10:37:29 PM »
So, Lakewood Primary ballots are out, and as expected, Mike D'elia is not running for reelection. Who will replace him? There are three contenders on the ballots, besides Ray Coles, who is running for reelection.

On the Democrat ballot, Coles is running alongside Jimmy Esposito, who ran with him in the past. On the Republican ballot, Bruce Stern and Deborah Fuentes are running. They will all win the primary (each voter choses two), but the question is who will the VAAD endorse in the General.

I don't know anyone too well, but if I had to vote today, I would go for Bruce Stern. From the limited amount I know of him, he seems like a real solid guy, with his head screwed on pretty straight, and someone who wants to do what's right. I only know him from watching him at Planning Board meetings, but I was pretty impressed with him, and I think he may be able to do a serious job as a committeeman. Don't know how deep his allegiance is with the establishment though, if any.

This is the full ballot: https://www.co.ocean.nj.us/WebContentFiles/5621e8a8-1de8-4c00-83e3-fc9d12d76ea5.pdf

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2855 on: May 11, 2023, 08:01:14 PM »
This discussion seems to belong here.
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
BIG PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2856 on: May 11, 2023, 08:02:09 PM »
This discussion seems to belong here.
I was debating where to post my initial observation. This thread or that one. My instinct was wrong.

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2857 on: May 13, 2023, 11:49:22 PM »
THis was sent to me by someone who wishes to remain anonymous to post here.

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Here's a TR of the event last night, so those here can be a little more informed before they jump to conclusions

First, a few things that were NOT there:
1. There were no guidelines or mandatory measures put into place. They didn't even say to get rid of devices. They just said at the end that every family will be getting a phone call over the coming weeks with an opportunity to set up a meeting with any of the organizations around town that deal with these issues, so that they can advise about filtering and make them aware of ways kids can get access without their parents knowing.
2. There was practically no talk about the "Shmutz" of the internet. In fact, they specifically said that everyone heard all the horror stories in the past and nobody needs to hear them again. Instead they focused on cultivating a Torahdik'eh atmosphere in a home, keeping out distractions, and helping to keep secular influences and nuances out of the home.
3. There was no down-talking. To the contrary, it was a very uplifting event, focusing on letting us realize how special we were and they others are looking to us to set a high level and they will follow suit. The general feeling walking out of there was of positivity, not the opposite.

Now for the actual TR. Note, that it only contains snippets, and I would advise those set to go next week to go and not to think they got everything from this small TR.

Rav Malkiel Kotler spoke first. After his introductory divrei Torah, he touched on how important it is to give our kids attention, and how it's almost impossible to do that when constantly on a phone - even the most filtered phone.

Rav Chaim Meir Roth spoke next. He also said some introductory divrei Torah, and then he also focused on similar things. He said how special we are, and how different we are from the nations of the world. He said that putting boundaries around ourselves is not something to be ashamed of, but to be proud of. He also said a few interesting personal stories.

Rabbi Joey Haber was the star of the evening. Interestingly, he is actually a Cheder alumnus, and he spoke about his memories growing up and going to the Cheder. But after his introduction, he delivered a masterful speech. It wasn't just inspiring stories and great punchlines, but it was really well thought out and articulated. He spoke about two points - first that phones are a tremendous distraction, and it's so hard to raise children with the phones dominating our lives. He laid out how Google and the tech companies are selling our brain time to marketing companies, and they are paying trillions of dollars to get us to spend our time and brain power on their sites - meaning that instead of focusing on our kids and families, we are diverting hours a day towards other thoughts. ("Why do you need to pay $100 for the shoes you are wearing, but you don't pay a penny to use Google or most websites? Because when you buy shoes, you are the customer and the shoes are the product. But when you go on Google, YOU are the product. Google is selling YOU to marketing companies.")

The second point he stressed is that phones bring into our homes so many foreign concepts, and that the Bnei Torah of Lakewood have for so long tried to keep out the "goyish nuances" from our lives, including the taavos and lifestyles. He said a story that when he was a kid in the Cheder, his mother wanted to bring the class bowling for his birthday, but she got a call from his classmate's mother - the wife of one of the roshei yeshiva, asking that she not do it "because we don't go bowling." He said that if you would say this story in some communities, they simply wouldn't get it, but in Lakewood, we were always proud to uphold the standard of keeping those influences and nuances out of our lives. But phones, with video clips and messages, slowly let all those things seep in.

He also spoke about how communities around the world look to Lakewood as the gold standard, and how chashuv we are.

Lastly, Rabbi Posen spoke for a few minutes. His point was that although we are trying to be very careful, parents often don't realize that there are ways for their kids to get access without their knowledge. He said a few specific stories, including one in which an 8th grader brought a credit card processing machine to school and was showing his classmates YouTube videos on it. The parents didn't even dream that you could get videos on there. He concluded by saying that every family will get a call and will be able to set up a personal meeting with one of the local organizations to be guided about how to properly protect their devices.




Hmmm….
“As such, the Cheder/Bais Faiga will contract technology consultants to meet personally with both parents annually….
These annual meetings are critical to the safety of the children and are not optional.”
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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2858 on: May 13, 2023, 11:51:08 PM »

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Re: The Future of Lakewood
« Reply #2859 on: May 14, 2023, 08:33:58 PM »