Do the chasidim plan to vote for Hochul or Zeldin?

[Yehuda57]

Did they actually register to vote or are they making noise?

Some registered. And some are registered from presidential elections or other elections that there was a local push for. Even though they wouldn't usually vote in this kind of election, now they are.

[avromie7]

Hochul was running away with the race. The fact that it tightened to within 10 points was a big deal. Even if she wins, if the fum vote makes it close enough that she starts sweating, it shows Dems they can no longer take the Chassidish votes for granted.

Overall? This is just a guess, but maybe 1%? It doesn't seem like a lot, but for a complete swing from one party to another I think it is significant. But again, this is just guessing, I don't know about this stuff to know how much impact it is having.

2018 had around 6 million votes cast for governor. 1% of that is 60k, and anyone who switches sides counts as 2. To get 1% you only need 30k people to switch sides, or 35-40k if you assume turnout will increase to 7-8 million.

I can't find much data, but in 2020 New Square had just over 3k votes If we assume they were all going to vote for Hochul and now they switch to Zeldin, that would change the results by .1%. While that's not enough to make much of a difference, they are only a small percentage of the Chassidish population in NYS.

[jj1000]

2018 had around 6 million votes cast for governor. 1% of that is 60k, and anyone who switches sides counts as 2. To get 1% you only need 30k people to switch sides, or 35-40k if you assume turnout will increase to 7-8 million.

I can't find much data, but in 2020 New Square had just over 3k votes If we assume they were all going to vote for Hochul and now they switch to Zeldin, that would change the results by .1%. While that's not enough to make much of a difference, they are only a small percentage of the Chassidish population in NYS.

Don't count just Chassidish, count all frum Jews.

[Yehuda57]

Don't count just Chassidish, count all frum Jews.

Brooklyn (including Crown Heights, Flatbush, Midwood, Williamsburg, and more), Queens, Five Towns... I could be overestimating, but it really does feel like there is a fire that has been lit.

Not all of it is yeshivas. Hochul was Cuomo's Lt. governor when he instituted the blatantly antisemitic red zone covid rules.

[yfr bachur]

FWIU tons of frum yidden never vote in NY because they feel it doesn't count there.

Are there people that never vote, that are voting this election?

I will be making the effort to return an absentee ballot

[TimT]

Both sides sure are putting in a lot of time & effort the last week for such a small percent.

[Sammy82]

Both sides sure are putting in a lot of time & effort the last week for such a small percent.

what effort did huchol put in? A visit to 1 rebbe? I'm pretty sure the call from Biden was more about congress (or just to keep the old man busy). That's not much compared to Zeldin. Another reason to vote for him.

[TimT]

what effort did huchol put in? A visit to 1 rebbe? I'm pretty sure the call from Biden was more about congress (or just to keep the old man busy). That's not much compared to Zeldin. Another reason to vote for him.

She was making the rounds
https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1586022194806546432
https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1585789533945491456
https://twitter.com/WMSBG/status/1586040355467976705

[Yehuda57]

what effort did huchol put in? A visit to 1 rebbe? I'm pretty sure the call from Biden was more about congress (or just to keep the old man busy). That's not much compared to Zeldin. Another reason to vote for him.

She has been visiting way more than one community

[biobook]

Has Zeldin said anything specific about what he would do? Or just that, in theory, he's supportive of the yeshiva community's point of view?

I'm wondering if this is like Trump's repeated claims that he would remove Fauci as NIH director, only to learn that that the NIH was outside the purview of the president's office and he was powerless to fire Fauci.  Hochul has said that NYSED is outside the purview of the governor's office, and that she is powerless to change the regulations.  If this is true, then Zeldin would also be powerless to effect change once he becomes governor.

For those who are going to hear Zeldin, these are the questions I'd ask him:

Hochul has said that the governor doesn't have authority over NYSED.  Do you agree?
What specific steps would you take to change the recently approved NYSED regulations?  We've heard that you respect yeshivas, but not what you would do for them as governor.

[Pony]

Has Zeldin said anything specific about what he would do? Or just that, in theory, he's supportive of the yeshiva community's point of view?

I'm wondering if this is like Trump's repeated claims that he would remove Fauci as NIH director, only to learn that that the NIH was outside the purview of the president's office and he was powerless to fire Fauci.  Hochul has said that NYSED is outside the purview of the governor's office, and that she is powerless to change the regulations.  If this is true, then Zeldin would also be powerless to effect change once he becomes governor.

For those who are going to hear Zeldin, these are the questions I'd ask him:

Hochul has said that the governor doesn't have authority over NYSED.  Do you agree?
What specific steps would you take to change the recently approved NYSED regulations?  We've heard that you respect yeshivas, but not what you would do for them as governor.

Yes, the governor doesn’t have the authority over NYSED. But the governors opinion carries a TON of weight with the little bureaucrats trying to impose their opinions on the yeshivos. If they get called out publicly by the highest elected official in the state it will definitely have an impact.

And yes, Zeldin has been very outspoken, see video in the link below.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/2133677/powerful-endorsement-zeldin-receives-powerful-backing-of-fjcc-massive-orthodox-jewish-voting-block-in-flatbush.html

[Ver hut gazugt]

2018 had around 6 million votes cast for governor. 1% of that is 60k, and anyone who switches sides counts as 2. To get 1% you only need 30k people to switch sides, or 35-40k if you assume turnout will increase to 7-8 million.

I can't find much data, but in 2020 New Square had just over 3k votes If we assume they were all going to vote for Hochul and now they switch to Zeldin, that would change the results by .1%. While that's not enough to make much of a difference, they are only a small percentage of the Chassidish population in NYS.

I think 2018 was an anti trump year so numbers could have been elevated that year. Plus nys lost residents ( frum as well)  over Covid….

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1587130568424177665

[biobook]

Yes, the governor doesn’t have the authority over NYSED. But the governors opinion carries a TON of weight with the little bureaucrats trying to impose their opinions on the yeshivos. If they get called out publicly by the highest elected official in the state it will definitely have an impact.

That's all you've got?  He hasn't said anything other than that he'll say something?

And yes, Zeldin has been very outspoken, see video in the link below.

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/2133677/powerful-endorsement-zeldin-receives-powerful-backing-of-fjcc-massive-orthodox-jewish-voting-block-in-flatbush.html

I don't have time to watch video, but you've seen it, so can you enumerate here 1,2,3.. what are the things he said he'll do?

[CountValentine]

...with the little bureaucrats trying to impose their opinions on the yeshivos.

How many states don't have some basic requirements they impose on all schools in their state?

[savvydigz]

How many states don't have some basic requirements they impose on all schools in their state?

We're not talking about basic requirements, if you've seen the bill they've passed

[Pony]

That's all you've got? 

I think it’s very significant to have the highest elected official in the state government going to bat for you.

I don't have time to watch video, but you've seen it, so can you enumerate here 1,2,3.. what are the things he said he'll do?

Watch the video. It took you more time to type the message than the two minutes to watch the video.

[biobook]

I think it’s very significant to have the highest elected official in the state government going to bat for you.

Watch the video. It took you more time to type the message than the two minutes to watch the video.

He says he'll
1. Tell the rest of the story
2. Fight alongside you
3. Do everything in my power to earn the title of being the greatest .... (can't make out what he says) of yeshiva education

IOW, he'll talk the talk, but not necessarily have it in his power to do anything practical about the matter. 

He says he's "opposed to the substantial equivalency push", but substantial equivalency is in the NYS constitution, which he'll be required to swear to uphold if he's elected governor. 

Someone should just ask him what he envisions he'll be able to accomplish and how.  Simple question.

[Baglach]

He says he'll
1. Tell the rest of the story
2. Fight alongside you
3. Do everything in my power to earn the title of being the greatest .... (can't make out what he says) of yeshiva education

IOW, he'll talk the talk, but not necessarily have it in his power to do anything practical about the matter. 

He says he's "opposed to the substantial equivalency push", but substantial equivalency is in the NYS constitution, which he'll be required to swear to uphold if he's elected governor. 

Someone should just ask him what he envisions he'll be able to accomplish and how.  Simple question.

Seems like people have forgotten what NY went through under Cuomo/Hochul in 2020 for that alone she deserves to go.

[Baglach]

Did they actually register to vote or are they making noise?

I know many people who registered for this upcoming election. Shame that there wasn't a bigger push for it few weeks ago.