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1)   What is a Financial Review?
In short - American Express occasionally freezes the credit card accounts of individuals with high-risk patterns, or for new account holders.
They request a lot of personal information, such as IRS tax returns, bank statements, letters from Banks ect…

Let’s break it down into 2 different types of Financial Reviews
A)   Mini Financial Review
B)   Financial Review

A)   Mini Financial Review

(please fill in info) This form of financial review, is usually a short process, it could be as short as one phone call. American Express might feel a need to verify your finances for whatever reason, and they could call you to verify information. Your accounts could be suspended from using until you get in touch with them, typically they will restore your accounts after a simple phone call.

B)   Financial Review
This type of Financial Review is very common. It often happens when opening a new account for the first time, usually if you are opening a Charge Card, or a Business Card or if on a new account you start off will a lot of high spending.
American Express will suspend your account/s, they will not remove the suspension until the review is over, which takes around 2 weeks.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

2)   Triggers

Look below for a list of triggers and links.
 
3)   What will happen?
Your accounts will get suspended. You will be able to log in online, and see account activity, but you will get a message that charging is suspended.

They will contact you via phone and email. Once you get in touch with them, (typically) you will be assigned a specific representative to work on your case.

The will require mainly IRS Tax returns. The point of a Financial Review is to verify your income. They may also require Back statements, a letter from a Bank to verify your address, and other documents. People have reported that they did survive a Financial Review with just bank statements.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

In cases of a Financial Review after opening a Business Card, you will need proof of Business income.

If you cannot provide the required information, shut down your account right away.

As long as you could provide the documents they request you will be fine, they might lower your credit lines, but you should be able keep your account open. Even as low as a $6000 tax return people have been able to survive a Financial Review.

4)   What Steps Should I take?

Get in touch with Amex as soon as you could. Send in the request inform promptly. You will have a rep that will be working with you, and telling you what documents are needed. 4506-t is a transcript request from the IRS for you last tax return. You will need to fill out this form, fax it to Amex, it will take them 24-48 hours until they receive this form, they will request the tax return from the IRS that could take about a week.

Important: you only have 2 attempts to send them the fax, if they reject it after 2 attempts you will get shut down. You don't get more than 2 attempts. (source)
You may be able to get 3 attempts if you ask for a manager.

You need to be on top of it, if you don’t follow thru, they could shut your accounts down.


5)   What to do if American Express closed your accounts?

Once American Express closes your accounts, the only way to get back on is if you have the required information needed to pass a Financial Review. They will require you to request a 4506 form from the IRS (which will cost you $57) before they even approve any of your future applications.


To start you may want to read up here:

F/R triggers:
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Credit line of $25k or more
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1438.msg10906#msg10906

Family member receiving FR can cause other family members to get Fr'ed as well
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6223.msg74003#msg74003 http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg24759#msg24759

Living at same address as someone who was FR'ed
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg77046#msg77046

Using majority of CL
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7526.msg87716#msg87716

Large cash advance
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=5908.msg82906#msg82906

Nothing...
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2723.msg30062#msg30062

Changing name on business card
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3589.msg38101#msg38101

Mint purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=146.msg22932#msg22932

Amex Gift Card Purchases
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2422.msg26670#msg26670
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg40106#msg40106

Unusual spending
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg7627#msg7627
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39597#msg39597

Amazon payments (possibly)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3657.msg88656#msg88656
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3524.msg42436#msg42436

Using close to reported income
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2537

Logging in online too much (!)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg13741#msg13741

Prepaying
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1712.msg13732#msg13732
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3710.msg39725#msg39725

Adding Cardholders (many?)
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8.msg49318#msg49318

Refunds exceeding total payments made on the card since it was opened
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg845606#msg845606
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Though not exactly F/R, it's worth mentioning that Amex takes returned payments very seriously.
They often shut all accounts without going through the F/R process.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1640 on: October 02, 2012, 08:08:45 PM »
I have an au on my account who got an FR today on their primary account. He will probably request to close his accounts. Will they close a card where he is just an au? And is it likely it will cause red flags for me?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1641 on: October 02, 2012, 09:39:00 PM »
I have an au on my account who got an FR today on their primary account. He will probably request to close his accounts. Will they close a card where he is just an au? And is it likely it will cause red flags for me?

IME no
But YMMV!  :-\
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Re: Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1642 on: October 02, 2012, 10:54:29 PM »
I have an au on my account who got an FR today on their primary account. He will probably request to close his accounts. Will they close a card where he is just an au? And is it likely it will cause red flags for me?

Does he know what he did to cause the FR or was it a surprise?
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1643 on: October 04, 2012, 03:16:33 PM »
shoot! I just got an f/r
Did an amex 3bm before yom tov and got approvals
 :'( :'( :'(

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1644 on: October 04, 2012, 03:17:14 PM »
shoot! I just got an f/r
Did an amex 3bm before yom tov and got approvals
 :'( :'( :'(
do u have income on the books. and do u have any biz cards

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1645 on: October 04, 2012, 03:24:10 PM »
do u have income on the books. and do u have any biz cards
no biz accounts
currently 4 cards open
only a few thousand dollars on the books (maybe $4-5k)
FR advisor seems to not be so mean and she advised me that if I fill out my 4506t even with barely any income they'll likely just slash my credit and not close my accounts.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1646 on: October 04, 2012, 03:25:19 PM »
no biz accounts
currently 4 cards open
only a few thousand dollars on the books (maybe $4-5k)
FR advisor seems to not be so mean and she advised me that if I fill out my 4506t even with barely any income they'll likely just slash my credit and not close my accounts.
ask to send in bank statements instead

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1647 on: October 04, 2012, 03:27:46 PM »
I saw that right after I posted.  I deleted my post.  Please delete.  Thanx

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1648 on: October 06, 2012, 10:41:32 PM »
ask to send in bank statements instead
they didnt want my bank statements
Sent in my 4506t yesterday. My F/R rep is out of town till thursday so i won't know until at least then

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1649 on: October 06, 2012, 11:41:25 PM »
I recently got approved for the Amex spg business(3k)and personal(15k).

Can someone please briefly note f/r triggers?

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1650 on: October 06, 2012, 11:44:06 PM »
I recently got approved for the Amex spg business(3k)and personal(15k).

Can someone please briefly note f/r triggers?
http://wiki.dansdeals.com/AMEX_FR_TRIGGER_LIST

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1651 on: October 06, 2012, 11:54:17 PM »
http://wiki.dansdeals.com/AMEX_FR_TRIGGER_LIST
Wow didn't know about that list. . . If someone wants to edit,  its missing 2 that I could think of

1) AU doing most of the spending on the account

2) Paying from a checking account not belonging to the account holder.

#1 is for sure true (personal experience), #2 is a 'possible' trigger.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1652 on: October 07, 2012, 02:25:07 AM »
Ty

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1653 on: October 07, 2012, 02:25:50 AM »
Wow didn't know about that list. . . If someone wants to edit,  its missing 2 that I could think of

It's a wiki. Why not do it yourself? :)

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1654 on: October 13, 2012, 09:29:20 PM »
Passed my F/R B'H!
Accounts were reinstated over shabbas
Sent in my 4906t which showed only about $8k in income and they only lowered the limit on my PRG card to $3,000

My 3 other cards were not affected (Hilton card and spg had $9600 limit each that were untouched  :o and another old spg with a $2k limit wasn't affected either)

So far I've survived Chase A/A and Amex F/R... whats next??

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1655 on: October 13, 2012, 09:32:46 PM »
Congrats!
Seems they only impose limits on charge cards when you survive a FR.
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1656 on: October 13, 2012, 09:36:14 PM »
Congrats!
Seems they only impose limits on charge cards when you survive a FR.
Really?? Cool, didn't know that- I was sure they'd lower my other limits to like $1k or something
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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1657 on: October 13, 2012, 09:54:34 PM »
Congrats!
Seems they only impose limits on charge cards when you survive a FR.
absolutely false

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1658 on: October 14, 2012, 01:47:06 AM »
absolutely false
+1

Happened to me on my SPG's as well.

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Re: Amex F/R Master Thread
« Reply #1659 on: October 14, 2012, 01:48:45 AM »
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