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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and Tiffeh Questions  (Read 436790 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4500 on: April 21, 2020, 12:03:01 AM »
How do you kasher a non self clean oven?
even self clean ovens, AFAIK don't reach the required temperature.
Talking abt Chometz not בשר בחלב, or טריפות.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4501 on: April 21, 2020, 12:08:07 AM »
even self clean ovens, AFAIK don't reach the required temperature.
Talking abt Chometz not בשר בחלב, or טריפות.
Whew! Many poskim say that self clean is enough for chometz. Especially were maikel this year...

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4502 on: April 21, 2020, 12:24:04 AM »
Whew! Many poskim say that self clean is enough for chometz. Especially were maikel this year...
Alot of poskim are following old psakim.

From someone that asked a posek the required temperature, and then contacted the manufacturer which temperature it reaches...

I know of a few poskim that specifically called out this problem, since it was said to be ok for years.

But AYLOR.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4503 on: April 21, 2020, 05:00:57 AM »
Alot of poskim are following old psakim.

From someone that asked a posek the required temperature, and then contacted the manufacturer which temperature it reaches...

I know of a few poskim that specifically called out this problem, since it was said to be ok for years.

But AYLOR.
What did your posek say is the required temperature?
If you don't care why would you comment?
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4504 on: April 21, 2020, 08:07:37 AM »
There is are machlokes about both types of ovens. Aylor.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4505 on: April 21, 2020, 08:45:40 AM »
Questions for chabadniks @ExGingi
Why does the ברכת המזון לילדים in our siddur not have a חתימה - i.e  בריך רחמנא דזן כולא
Acc to the Alter Rebbe in shulchan aruch this would be an integral part of the nusach

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4506 on: April 21, 2020, 08:51:02 AM »
Questions for chabadniks @ExGingi
Why does the ברכת המזון לילדים in our siddur not have a חתימה - i.e  בריך רחמנא דזן כולא
Acc to the Alter Rebbe in shulchan aruch this would be an integral part of the nusach

IDK. Never looked into it. Remember that in the Siddur the AR sometimes rules differently than his SA.
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4507 on: April 21, 2020, 09:02:24 AM »
If anyone can chime in I'd appreciate it.
This psak is in many places (that עיקר הברכה היא פתיחתה וחתימתה) so it's hard to imagine the alter Rebbe went back on it.

And the nusach of the page for kids was made or reviewed by the Rebbe IIRC, by kehos, definitely not the Alter Rebbe.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4508 on: April 21, 2020, 09:50:33 AM »
There is are machlokes about both types of ovens. Aylor.
who says self clean does not work?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4509 on: April 21, 2020, 09:52:16 AM »
even self clean ovens, AFAIK don't reach the required temperature.
Talking abt Chometz not בשר בחלב, or טריפות.
kibolo kach polto. I believe self clean gets to about 900F . What’s the required temperature?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4510 on: April 21, 2020, 09:54:38 AM »
IDK. Never looked into it. Remember that in the Siddur the AR sometimes rules differently than his SA.

What did you say with your kids?
The Aramaic version? Hebrew?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4511 on: April 21, 2020, 09:58:13 AM »
who says self clean does not work?
I have heard that on certain new self-clean ovens, it's not the true self-clean that we're used to and in fact doesn't reach libun. 
Small people talk about other people.
Average people talk about things
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4512 on: April 21, 2020, 10:18:15 AM »
kibolo kach polto. I believe self clean gets to about 900F . What’s the required temperature?
Libun does not follow that rule according to many poskim.
Just because things turned out a certain way doesn't mean you were right.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4513 on: April 21, 2020, 10:35:30 AM »
Libun does not follow that rule according to  many poskim.
true, libun  is burning bliyos, not spitting out.

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions
« Reply #4514 on: April 21, 2020, 10:58:10 AM »
I have heard that on certain new self-clean ovens, it's not the true self-clean that we're used to and in fact doesn't reach libun.
Are you talking about the 'steam clean' ones? Or regular self clean?