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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #221 on: May 20, 2020, 08:12:37 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-patients-in-new-cluster-exhibiting-symptoms-differently-than-wuhan

Every part of this is concerning.

Between the fact that it’s Fox News, data out of China, and lung symptoms that don’t sound so different from garden-variety COVID-19, this sounds like fake news.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #222 on: May 20, 2020, 08:18:09 AM »
Between the fact that it’s Fox News, data out of China, and lung symptoms that don’t sound so different from garden-variety COVID-19, this sounds like fake news.

Also concerning  ;)
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #223 on: May 20, 2020, 08:21:23 AM »
Between the fact that it’s Fox News, data out of China, and lung symptoms that don’t sound so different from garden-variety COVID-19, this sounds like fake news.
Isn't Fox's agenda to downplay the virus and open the country? (My info is all secondhand via DDF.)

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #224 on: May 20, 2020, 08:40:55 AM »
Isn't Fox's agenda to downplay the virus and open the country? (My info is all secondhand via DDF.)

Fox's agenda is to sow as much discord as possible, by gaslighting as many groups as they can. By highlighting extremes on both sides, the divide gets bigger. Another part of their agenda is making China look bad in any way and at any cost. This article plays to both of those things.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #225 on: May 20, 2020, 08:47:34 AM »
Fox's agenda is to sow as much discord as possible, by gaslighting as many groups as they can. By highlighting extremes on both sides, the divide gets bigger. Another part of their agenda is making China look bad in any way and at any cost. This article plays to both of those things.
Not sure how you know that, but I see what you're saying.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #227 on: May 20, 2020, 07:17:32 PM »
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-patients-in-new-cluster-exhibiting-symptoms-differently-than-wuhan

Every part of this is concerning.
Between the fact that it’s Fox News, data out of China, and lung symptoms that don’t sound so different from garden-variety COVID-19, this sounds like fake news.
It is based on this from Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/china-sees-signs-new-cluster-carries-virus-longer-than-in-wuhan?srnd=prognosis

Qiu said that doctors have also noticed patients in the northeast cluster seem to have damage mostly in their lungs, whereas patients in Wuhan suffered multi-organ damage across the heart, kidney and gut.

Say what?

Which is an interview with the one who supposedly ran the Chinese response and seems to have acknowledged that they lied about it.
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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #234 on: May 22, 2020, 12:18:45 AM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/20/858712314/organ-transplants-down-as-stay-at-home-rules-reduce-fatal-traffic-collisions

I wonder if this will unfortunately cause people on the waiting list who normally might have gotten the organ they’re waiting for to die before it becomes available? That would be really sad.

ETA: OTOH, they’re getting organs of people dying in car accidents, so I guess it balances out considering those people aren’t crashing and dying. Still feels unfortunate for the organ recipients.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #235 on: May 22, 2020, 12:19:56 AM »
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/05/20/coronavirus-does-not-spread-easily-surfaces-objects-cdc/5232748002/
This is really unbelievable. For anyone who thought the news has anything to do with reality.. this “scoop” has now been picked up by just about every major national outlet. That the CDC “recently changed their guidelines” to include this information.. can someone find the cached page and when they changed it? I’m not so internet savvy. But I can confidently say it was in April.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #236 on: May 22, 2020, 12:21:10 AM »
I wonder if this will unfortunately cause people on the waiting list who normally might have gotten the organ they’re waiting for to die before it becomes available? That would be really sad.
So we shouldn’t prevent car accident fatalities because then their organs won’t be available for donation, and now there will be more “lockdown induced deaths”?

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #237 on: May 22, 2020, 01:20:41 AM »
This is really unbelievable. For anyone who thought the news has anything to do with reality.. this “scoop” has now been picked up by just about every major national outlet. That the CDC “recently changed their guidelines” to include this information.. can someone find the cached page and when they changed it? I’m not so internet savvy. But I can confidently say it was in April.
I also thought I had seen this earlier.  The bottom of this page says "last reviewed April 13, 2020", so it must have been around then.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

Perhaps it's being resurrected now so that people will feel comfortable about going out into the world again.

Though I don't find it particularly clear or reassuring.  Touching surfaces is "not thought to be the main way the virus spreads"... but it is a minor way?  What does that mean?  Responsible for 1% of infections?  5%?  25%?  Would I be any less sick if I became infected in a non-main way?  What is this based on?

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #238 on: May 22, 2020, 01:27:41 AM »
I also thought I had seen this earlier.  The bottom of this page says "last reviewed April 13, 2020", so it must have been around then.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

Perhaps it's being resurrected now so that people will feel comfortable about going out into the world again.

Though I don't find it particularly clear or reassuring.  Touching surfaces is "not thought to be the main way the virus spreads"... but it is a minor way?  What does that mean?  Responsible for 1% of infections?  5%?  25%?  Would I be any less sick if I became infected in a non-main way?  What is this based on?
Thank you! How nutty is that? The CDC had clearly had this on their website for over a month for crying out loud and every national news source is now trumpeting this like it’s major breaking news because some idiot at the Post didn’t read the fine print.

It’s the CDCs website, for goodness sake. How hard can it be to research that??

That’s the media for you.

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Re: Interesting Articles: COVID-19 Edition
« Reply #239 on: May 22, 2020, 07:22:20 AM »
So we shouldn’t prevent car accident fatalities because then their organs won’t be available for donation, and now there will be more “lockdown induced deaths”?

See my edit, still feels unfortunate for those on organ waiting lists.