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Areivim USA is a dignified way to give צדקה. It is not Life Insurance and doesn't guarantee any sort of financial protection to its members. it is registered as a religious organization and as such isn't required to incur the additional cost of preparing and filing form 990 with the IRS.

http://www.areivim.info/rform.php

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I spoke to Areivim at length as I sell life insurance and wanted to best advise ppl that had Areivim already and wanted to supplement it with LI.
I was told that it has never happened that Areivim declined to pay out based on someones assets or LI. It has happened that the family told them they don't need the money, but they never told the family no.
Simple reasoning is, they also think that 100K per yasom doesn't really cover it, the program just won't allow for a higher payout at $28/ monthly. So they encourage everyone to have LI as well to make sure kids are adequetly covered, and owning LI does not disqualify a payout [unless each kid will receive over a million dollars etc].



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They are tax exempt. Click on the below IRS link and then download the first attachment. Then search "Areivim USA"

https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/tax-exempt-organization-search-bulk-data-downloads


This (I have been to a few Areivim meeting with these Rabbonim)

Harav Elya Brudny, Rosh Yeshivas Mir Flatbush;
Harav Yitzchok Isaac Eichenstein, Galanter Rav;
Harav Doniel Geldzahler, Rosh Yeshivas Ohr Yisrael;
Harav Binyomin Zev Landau, Tosher Dayan of Boro Park;
Harav Henoch Shachar, Rav of Klal Ohr Tuvia in Lakewood

Areivim Terms and Conditions (emphasis added):
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4) Areivim USA is not life insurance. Areivim USA has been established primarily as a charitable endeavor and its halachic status is like that of all tzedakah money collected from the public. In the event of a the passing of a member rl, all contributions can be made with maaser money.

5) In the event of (G-d forbid) a large number of deaths among members (as a result of a war, an earthquake, etc.), Areivim USA reserves the right to consult with its Rabbinical Board on proper procedures.

6) Members have no rights to sue or submit legal claims against the decisions of Areivim USA or its Rabbinical Board, including for failure to initiate a collection. There are no oral agreements or other commitments between Areivim USA and its members, and no such oral agreements or commitments shall be given any legal effect.

« Last edited by ExGingi on May 30, 2021, 11:11:03 AM »

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #860 on: January 18, 2023, 03:09:58 PM »
its a charity
if its not clear to you thats its pure charity start from the first post in this thread
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #861 on: January 19, 2023, 01:29:36 AM »
Are they allowed to raise the price for past members? What if I don't agree to the new price, can they legally void the contract?
Then you have to leave since your not paying the right amount per month

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #862 on: January 19, 2023, 08:02:24 AM »
Are they allowed to raise the price for past members? What if I don't agree to the new price, can they legally void the contract?
See the last paragraph. Not sure why the need to be difficult with them as all they have in mind is to help.


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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #863 on: January 19, 2023, 10:59:03 AM »
See the last paragraph. Not sure why the need to be difficult with them as all they have in mind is to help.


How many questionnaires were sent? how many answered yes, and how many answered No? we will figure the percentile our selves

Names of the rabonim that participated in the meeting/decision???

Does it cost more then $100k to marry off a child???

Just wondering

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #864 on: January 19, 2023, 11:15:43 AM »
How many questionnaires were sent? how many answered yes, and how many answered No? we will figure the percentile our selves

Names of the rabonim that participated in the meeting/decision???

Does it cost more then $100k to marry off a child???

Just wondering
Which tzedaka ever puts that information out on the general correspondence? Most you are lucky if you get an answer when asking. Did you ask any of these wisdoms to them?
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #865 on: January 19, 2023, 11:26:12 AM »
How many questionnaires were sent? how many answered yes, and how many answered No? we will figure the percentile our selves

Names of the rabonim that participated in the meeting/decision???

Does it cost more then $100k to marry off a child???

Just wondering

Anyone who chose to participate in this scheme should have known from the beginning that the structure and operations are merely the whims of a few individuals. There is no contract and no accounting to the membership. If you understand that and still choose to participate then you are possibly performing a high level of tzedaka. But it's a trust-me/no questions asked situation.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #866 on: January 19, 2023, 12:34:21 PM »
Anyone who chose to participate in this scheme should have known from the beginning that the structure and operations are merely the whims of a few individuals. There is no contract and no accounting to the membership. If you understand that and still choose to participate then you are possibly performing a high level of tzedaka. But it's a trust-me/no questions asked situation.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #867 on: January 19, 2023, 01:04:01 PM »
They are allowed to go up and we are allowed to leave.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #868 on: January 19, 2023, 07:11:23 PM »
Yossel will stay Yossel

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #869 on: January 19, 2023, 07:53:16 PM »
How many questionnaires were sent? how many answered yes, and how many answered No? we will figure the percentile our selves

Names of the rabonim that participated in the meeting/decision???

Does it cost more then $100k to marry off a child???

Just wondering
did read what the money is used for?

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The cost of living and of marrying off a child has risen, and more funds are needed.

the money collected gets put away in a separate account which is controlled by including the families rav, part of the money is used for day to day living expenses and part i think the original amount was 50k gets put away for marrying off

@Yosel thanks for the clarification
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #870 on: January 30, 2023, 02:05:25 PM »
It is with great pain that we notify you of the untimely Petirah of an Areivim USA member from Staten Island leaving behind a widow and five orphans R''l 
Therefore, Areivim USA members are requested to donate in the month of February.

Rav Tzvi Pollack, Rav of Agudas Shomrei Hadas-Staten Island will be overseeing the collection on behalf of the family.

Your card/account ending in ***, will be debited in the amount of $28 on or about 2/1/2023 .
Please make sure this card/account is still valid. In the case it is not valid, or you would like to change the payment method, please contact us no later than Tuesday January 31st with the correct information.
 
If you do not wish to donate, please call us by Tuesday January 31st or we will assume that you want us to charge the account we have on file for the above amount.

In the zechus of of supporting almonos & yesomim in a respectful and discreet manner, may we all be spared any sorrow and may our services speedily become obsolete.
 
 Thank you & Tizku L'Mitzvos
For any questions or for further assistance feel free to contact us at:
1-877-827-3484 / 1-866-727-3484 / 718-977-5089
By email office@areivimusa.org or by replying to this email.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #871 on: January 30, 2023, 02:57:06 PM »
It is with great pain that we notify you of the untimely Petirah of an Areivim USA member from Staten Island leaving behind a widow and five orphans R''l 
Therefore, Areivim USA members are requested to donate in the month of February.

Rav Tzvi Pollack, Rav of Agudas Shomrei Hadas-Staten Island will be overseeing the collection on behalf of the family.

Your card/account ending in ***, will be debited in the amount of $28 on or about 2/1/2023 .
Please make sure this card/account is still valid. In the case it is not valid, or you would like to change the payment method, please contact us no later than Tuesday January 31st with the correct information.
 
If you do not wish to donate, please call us by Tuesday January 31st or we will assume that you want us to charge the account we have on file for the above amount.

In the zechus of of supporting almonos & yesomim in a respectful and discreet manner, may we all be spared any sorrow and may our services speedily become obsolete.
 
 Thank you & Tizku L'Mitzvos
For any questions or for further assistance feel free to contact us at:
1-877-827-3484 / 1-866-727-3484 / 718-977-5089
By email office@areivimusa.org or by replying to this email.

Whenever you see this, it's another family that won't need a splashing campaign. Hashem Yerachem. It's definitely a good charity.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #872 on: January 30, 2023, 03:17:18 PM »
Whenever you see this, it's another family that won't need a splashing campaign.

Not necessarily. The funds might be insufficient.

In recent years I delivered a death benefit of around $1.5MM that was insufficient. 😢
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #873 on: January 30, 2023, 03:18:10 PM »
Not necessarily. The funds might be insufficient.

$600k is a nice sum.

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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #874 on: January 30, 2023, 03:19:04 PM »
Not necessarily. The funds might be insufficient.

They are rarely sufficient, but often when they have the headstart from Areivim the money can be raised without a whole "splashing campaign"
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #875 on: January 30, 2023, 03:19:36 PM »
$600k is a nice sum.
But not nearly enough for a family of yesomim.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #876 on: January 30, 2023, 03:20:08 PM »
$600k is a nice sum.

For what? In a vacuum? What obligations are there? How old are the kids? Are there any special needs? Is there a social security benefit?
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #877 on: January 30, 2023, 03:21:00 PM »
They are rarely sufficient, but often when they have the headstart from Areivim the money can be raised without a whole "splashing campaign"

Unfortunately without a "splashing campaign" not much is raised. צרכי עמך מרובים.
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Re: Areivim USA - Coronavirus
« Reply #878 on: January 30, 2023, 03:21:13 PM »
For what? In a vacuum? What obligations are there? How old are the kids? Are there any special needs? Is there a social security benefit?

As an alternative for a campaign.

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« Reply #879 on: January 30, 2023, 03:22:23 PM »
As an alternative for a campaign.

Maybe. And maybe not.
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