Peace In The Middle East Master Thread

[yelped]

Ok so go back to the days after October 7th for all the "Israel is so resilient" tweets showing Israelis going on with their lives.

And because there are people in Gaza trying to live normal lives somehow proves something? These posts are so dumb

I hear your point, but A. I don't think there was anyone showing chilling by the beach and portraying it as "resilience", maybe other actions, but not "relaxing" type of actions. B. When you claim the outrageous stuff is ongoing every second and you see scenes like this, it doesn't reflect well on your portraying a situation a certain way.

In any case, I agree that this is irrelevant to anything.

[CountValentine]

Can think of worse places to live than the beach

Be careful. Once slept on the beach in MBJ. Must have been an ant hill nearby. 

[yelped]

One has homes to go back to and the other ones don't?

Just putting out there that ~120k Israelis still can't return to their holes 6 months later. In the north and the south.

[CountValentine]

Just putting out there that ~120k Israelis still can't return to their holes 6 months later. In the north and the south.

That is terrible and unacceptable. Don't know what words would describe over 1mm+ in a worse situation.

[yelped]

That is terrible and unacceptable. Don't know what words would describe over 1mm+ in a worse situation.

Maybe a good idea would have been to let Israel go into Rafah 2 months ago and be done with Phase 1 by now? An even better idea would be not to start the war?

[aygart]

That is terrible and unacceptable. Don't know what words would describe over 1mm+ in a worse situation.

Victims of Hamas although it is difficult to fully consider them all victims considering the way they have supported Hamas and cheered over their worst atrocities and in many cases harbored and actively sides them

[CountValentine]

Maybe a good idea would have been to let Israel go into Rafah 2 months ago and be done with Phase 1 by now? An even better idea would be not to start the war?

The people didn't start the war. Or maybe all those people on the beach are Hamas?

[yelped]

The people didn't start the war. Or maybe all those people on the beach are Hamas?

Ok?

[Just A Jew]

One is not claiming an ongoing genocide and starvation?

And if I show you Jewish kids playing in Germany or Poland in the late 30's or 40's, that negates the Holocaust? There's enough to get upset about. This ain't it.

[yelped]

And if I show you Jewish kids playing in Germany or Poland in the late 30's or 40's, that negates the Holocaust? There's enough to get upset about. This ain't it.

I didn't post it.

[yelped]

I hear your point, but A. I don't think there was anyone showing chilling by the beach and portraying it as "resilience", maybe other actions, but not "relaxing" type of actions. B. When you claim the outrageous stuff is ongoing every second and you see scenes like this, it doesn't reflect well on your portraying a situation a certain way.

In any case, I agree that this is irrelevant to anything.

Point B put better than me:

https://twitter.com/ProfDBernstein/status/1780984516489703795

[CountValentine]

Genocide has different meaning to different people. It is thrown around like Kool-Aid or EC.

In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Have individuals claimed Israel has committed genocide, yes.
Does people on the beach show they have not committed one or more of the five acts, no

[yelped]

Genocide has different meaning to different people. It is thrown around like Kool-Aid or EC.

In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

Have individuals claimed Israel has committed genocide, yes.
Does people on the beach show they have not committed one or more of the five acts, no

If you use the meaning of Genocide as defined in the convention (where the word originates from) then this shows that Ithe people of Gaza are not afraid that Israel is committing genocide since Israel can just bomb them if they're gathered in large groups at the beach. Whatever, this is silly, anyways, because the whole charge is silly and outrageous. So to prove from a picture for a stupid accusation is a waste of time anyways.

[CountValentine]

If you use the meaning of Genocide as defined in the convention (where the word originates from) then this shows that Ithe people of Gaza are not afraid that Israel is committing genocide since Israel can just bomb them if they're gathered in large groups at the beach. Whatever, this is silly, anyways, because the whole charge is silly and outrageous. So to prove from a picture for a stupid accusation is a waste of time anyways.

Your premise is wrong. People can be afraid and still go to the beach.
I am guessing some in Israel are afraid and still go about their normal life.
I agree to use the picture to prove anything is stupid.

[CountValentine]

Please tell me this is not true: An Israel representative told Quater to keep giving money to Hamas.

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1775934807165272158?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1775934807165272158%7Ctwgr%5E4ef87e21a8ea7f02abe7f95d54353e8fad6f7221%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fsraeli-minister-air-quotes-on-innocent-people-in-gaza-mention_uk_660f30cfe4b078af1447f96a

[yelped]

Please tell me this is not true: An Israel representative told Quater to keep giving money to Hamas.

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1775934807165272158?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1775934807165272158%7Ctwgr%5E4ef87e21a8ea7f02abe7f95d54353e8fad6f7221%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.co.uk%2Fentry%2Fsraeli-minister-air-quotes-on-innocent-people-in-gaza-mention_uk_660f30cfe4b078af1447f96a

When? Pre October 7 it was posted here multiple times in the mistaken belief if they had what they needed, there would be quiet.

[CountValentine]

When? Pre October 7 it was posted here multiple times in the mistaken belief if they had what they needed, there would be quiet.

Yes pre-October and also under the last administration.
MISTAKEN? Every person involved should be locked up. They partially funded the Oct 7 attack. That is insane!!!

[yelped]

Yes pre-October and also under the last administration.
MISTAKEN? Every person involved should be locked up. They partially funded the Oct 7 attack. That is insane!!!

Search DDF. I believe Platinum Guy mentioned it a bunch of times.

[CountValentine]

Search DDF. I believe Platinum Guy mentioned it a bunch of times.

I mess around a lot of the time. This isn't one of them.
I don't know how everyone here is not calling for their heads 24/7!!!

[yelped]

I mess around a lot of the time. This isn't one of them.
I don't know how everyone here is not calling for their heads 24/7!!!

Israel remits taxes to the PA, the PA funds Pay to Slay, and "civil servants" in Gaza, too, which includes Hamas. This is part of what Yehuda57 is saying with the PR war.  At times, Israel has withheld the funds, but always buckles under US pressure to keep on giving it.