Author Topic: UK COVID Mutation (Read 24277 times)

TimT · « **Reply #20 on:** December 21, 2020, 03:04:04 PM »

Quote from: iluv2travel on December 21, 2020, 02:37:21 PM

I can't recall where I read this, but it said this mutation is 70% more contagious.

In every article

Ergel · « **Reply #21 on:** December 21, 2020, 03:10:55 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on December 21, 2020, 02:42:26 PM

yes but not 100% conclusive

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

This article seems to have the most data on why they think it's more transmissible. I'm skeptical

iluv2travel · « **Reply #22 on:** December 21, 2020, 04:07:33 PM »

Quote from: TimT on December 21, 2020, 03:04:04 PM

In every article

But I only read it in one at the end of last week 😉.

I see by today all the articles are quoting that 70% so I'm not going to be posting a bunch of links. They aren't even sure of that anyway. Just says "could be" and/or "up to" 70% more...

TimT · « **Reply #23 on:** December 21, 2020, 04:19:53 PM »

Quote from: iluv2travel on December 21, 2020, 04:07:33 PM

But I only read it in one at the end of last week 😉.

I see by today all the articles are quoting that 70% so I'm not going to be posting a bunch of links. They aren't even sure of that anyway. Just says "could be" and/or "up to" 70% more...

IINM it’s from NERVTAG

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #24 on:** December 21, 2020, 05:38:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1341126582660939777?s=21

Afrages6 · « **Reply #25 on:** December 21, 2020, 05:59:52 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on December 21, 2020, 05:38:31 PM

https://twitter.com/jcbarret/status/1341126582660939777?s=21

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1341096711691878401?s=21

The modeling came from Neil Ferguson.. come on!

Ergel · « **Reply #26 on:** December 21, 2020, 06:09:32 PM »

Quote from: Afrages6 on December 21, 2020, 05:59:52 PM

https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1341096711691878401?s=21

The modeling came from Neil Ferguson.. come on!

Same way there is little data proving that the variant is more transmissible, there is even less data that the modeling comes from Ferguson. Seems like they jumped from Ferguson being present at the meeting to him being responsible

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #27 on:** December 21, 2020, 10:41:55 PM »

https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1341094891351371778?s=21

The problem with the virus is if you wait for evidence you will be too late

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #28 on:** December 21, 2020, 11:43:38 PM »

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1341231957213126657?s=21

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #29 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:18:25 AM »

https://twitter.com/lauringlab/status/1341177860359413760?s=21

yitzgar · « **Reply #30 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:30:56 AM »

Will the vaccine work for this strain?

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #31 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:38:45 AM »

Quote from: yitzgar on December 22, 2020, 12:30:56 AM

Will the vaccine work for this strain?

They are testing the mutated virus in blood samples from vaccinated people, results expected in a few days.
It is highly likely the vaccine will work.

Euclid · « **Reply #32 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:40:07 AM »

Quote from: yitzgar on December 22, 2020, 12:30:56 AM

Will the vaccine work for this strain?

https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1341094905200971776

Moshe123 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 22, 2020, 03:22:01 AM »

It's amazing that alarmism is the default popular position.

aygart · « **Reply #34 on:** December 22, 2020, 06:36:18 AM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on December 22, 2020, 03:22:01 AM

It's amazing that alarmism is the default popular position.

Where?

Moshe123 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 22, 2020, 06:40:01 AM »

Quote from: aygart on December 22, 2020, 06:36:18 AM

Where?

By governments resounding to this "development" for one.

aygart · « **Reply #36 on:** December 22, 2020, 08:08:10 AM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on December 22, 2020, 06:40:01 AM

By governments resounding to this "development" for one.

Governments is popular position?lol

avromie7 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 22, 2020, 09:58:56 AM »

Quote from: Ergel on December 21, 2020, 06:09:32 PM

Same way there is little data proving that the variant is more transmissible, there is even less data that the modeling comes from Ferguson. Seems like they jumped from Ferguson being present at the meeting to him being responsible

Anything that has anything to do with Niel Ferguson is tainted.

Ergel · « **Reply #38 on:** December 22, 2020, 10:37:26 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on December 22, 2020, 09:58:56 AM

Anything that has anything to do with Niel Ferguson is tainted.

So, if we have real data (I'm not saying there is here) that this is more transmissible - we ignore it because some idiot was at the meeting?

avromie7 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 22, 2020, 12:05:38 PM »

Quote from: Ergel on December 22, 2020, 10:37:26 AM

So, if we have real data (I'm not saying there is here) that this is more transmissible - we ignore it because some idiot was at the meeting?

Once that guy is involved, it takes overwhelming evidence for me to believe there's anything. So far the evidence has been pretty shaky, and it's probably because he's involved.