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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2021, 05:44:31 PM »

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2021, 09:37:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/moshe_nayes/status/1359600541316374531


"ראיתי בני עלייה והן מועטין, אם אלף הן - אני ובני מהן, אם מאה הם - אני ובני מהן, אם שנים הן - אני ובני הן". סוכה, דף מה
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2021, 08:42:55 AM »
100% of citizens aged 60+ in Modi'in Ilit vaccinated
The Min of Health reported that all individuals aged 60 and up in the mostly-haredi city of Modi'in Ilit have been vaccinated for the coronavirus.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/531972

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2021, 09:36:38 AM »
100% of citizens aged 60+ in Modi'in Ilit vaccinated
The Min of Health reported that all individuals aged 60 and up in the mostly-haredi city of Modi'in Ilit have been vaccinated for the coronavirus.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/531972
Around how many people is that?
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2021, 09:46:04 AM »
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2021, 10:00:53 AM »

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2021, 01:43:29 PM »
Around how many people is that?

Modiin Illit has 76,000 residents, from which only 30,000 are above 18. 23,000 tested positive for Covid (18 died) and aren't officially eligible for vaccination, and 8000 were vaccinated. Israel's lockdown restrictions differentiate between cities based on vaccination rates.

Still, very admirable and hopefully will be emulated in other frum communities.
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2021, 01:45:30 PM »
Modiin Illit has 76,000 residents

Still, very admirable and hopefully will be emulated in other frum communities.

How many of the 76k are Haredi?
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2021, 01:46:20 PM »
How many of the 76k are Haredi?
110% (the rest aren't registering in the census)
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2021, 01:49:52 PM »
110% (the rest aren't registering in the census)

what's the difference between this city and other Haredi cities? Leadership?
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2021, 01:54:07 PM »
what's the difference between this city and other Haredi cities? Leadership?
In terms of what? Vaccination percentages are probably due to a tiny absolute count and the city gov/health authorities, but other frum communities aren't far behind.
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2021, 01:58:56 PM »
In terms of what? Vaccination percentages are probably due to a tiny absolute count and the city gov/health authorities, but other frum communities aren't far behind.

Seem to remember seeing signficiantly lower percentage of Haredi population vaccinated? Is the difference mostly due to their demographics (large number of ineligible children)?
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2021, 02:00:54 PM »
what's the difference between this city and other Haredi cities? Leadership?

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2021, 02:33:30 PM »
Seem to remember seeing signficiantly lower percentage of Haredi population vaccinated? Is the difference mostly due to their demographics (large number of ineligible children)?
IIRC aside from the lower average age(ineligible children and lower risk youth) Haredim have outsized hesitancy in 20-60 but less in older people. Combination of risk & maturity.
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2021, 05:51:24 PM »
Beis din rabbaney chabad in Israel now saying everyone over 16 should vaccinate https://files.anash.org/uploads/2021/02/6023a5d1a1447_1612948945_news_images_gallery-1-699x1024.jpg
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2021, 05:53:12 PM »
Quote from: YitzyS
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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2021, 05:55:13 PM »
Bris Beis din rabbaney chabad in Israel now saying everyone over 16 should vaccinate https://files.anash.org/uploads/2021/02/6023a5d1a1447_1612948945_news_images_gallery-1-699x1024.jpg

@ExGingi Do most Chabadtzkers in EY recognise these rabbonim and their Psakim?


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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2021, 07:02:16 PM »
Thanks for the correction:)

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Re: Rabbanic Covid Guidance
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2021, 08:32:40 PM »
I am told there is a recent letter from R Herschel Shachter with a soul searching criticism of Covid practices that are bringing about Chillul Hashem & antisemitism/aivah.

Can anybody find it?
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