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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #120 on: November 27, 2023, 09:23:29 PM »
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #121 on: November 28, 2023, 12:18:26 AM »
Step 1 complete!

https://github.com/chabad-source/esphometimer/
What do you mean with step 1?
Once this gets done & I start using it, your are going to get drunk from coffee 😜

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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #122 on: November 28, 2023, 08:14:12 AM »
What do you mean with step 1?
Once this gets done & I start using it, your are going to get drunk from coffee 😜
I created a complete project for timers but there's no relation to melacha plug. Step 2 is joining the two together and adding in Jewish based timers
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #123 on: December 26, 2023, 10:58:44 PM »
Melacha Plug ~ ESPHome Timer

It's been merged :)

https://github.com/chabad-source/melachatimer/
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #124 on: January 03, 2024, 07:19:17 PM »
Melacha Plug ~ ESPHome Timer

It's been merged :)

https://github.com/chabad-source/melachatimer/

I hope to try it in the near future, meanwhile lets buy @Yo ssi some Coffee

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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #125 on: January 03, 2024, 07:21:22 PM »
I hope to try it in the near future, meanwhile lets buy @Yo ssi some Coffee
It's not fully polished yet. Have a lot more things on the list to do iyh.

Thank you 🙏
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2024, 10:07:15 PM »
1. I'm using open source software, so no real changes there
2. Definitely, the calculations on there should be able to last forever. There is no commercial smart plug with a RTC on it so that will have to be custom made. (RTC is a real time clock that keeps track of the time)
3/4 I don't think that many people would be interested in a single purpose plug. But I thought about it too.

In short the greatest part of it is the open source software and the customization it allows.
I think there would be a lot of people interested if it was easy to set up. Plug, switch and Module versions.
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #127 on: February 18, 2024, 12:13:18 AM »
I think there would be a lot of people interested if it was easy to set up. Plug, switch and Module versions.
In order for that to work it would probably need to be closed source and sold at a premium, two things I don't prefer. It's currently very cheap to get on board, easy to mess with and is flexible with endless possibilities.
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #128 on: February 18, 2024, 09:08:34 AM »
In order for that to work it would probably need to be closed source and sold at a premium, two things I don't prefer. It's currently very cheap to get on board, easy to mess with and is flexible with endless possibilities.
Why would that be? why can't you just buy a couple of these and preload the file and then sell it?
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #129 on: February 18, 2024, 10:20:04 AM »
Why would that be? why can't you just buy a couple of these and preload the file and then sell it?
The current user experience is not very user friendly, also no real app control. I'd rather show anyone how can they do it themselves, then have that hassle.
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #130 on: February 18, 2024, 10:39:02 AM »
Perhaps this could be sold by on of the other shabbos friendly brands like Kosher Innovations, it should specifically not have a user interface... Should require no internet... Plug and play
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #131 on: February 18, 2024, 11:13:41 AM »
Perhaps this could be sold by on of the other shabbos friendly brands like Kosher Innovations, it should specifically not have a user interface... Should require no internet... Plug and play
How would you set the location and settings?
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #132 on: February 18, 2024, 11:17:32 AM »
How would you set the location and settings?
The seller would set it for you ...
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #133 on: February 18, 2024, 11:49:30 AM »
The seller would set it for you ...
That's not a great idea. Every time you move you need to buy a new device? Or if one week you take in Shabbos early how can you change the setting?

It goes on and on for all other settings..
https://github.com/chabad-source/melachaplug

Not to mention the timer version which you'd set timers..
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #134 on: February 18, 2024, 07:43:49 PM »
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If you have a device preset with Lakewood area zmanim set with a drop of leeway (example: 20 min before Skiyah to 75 min after for mid Lakewood) should be good for the whole Lakewood area.

Similarly, for CH, with Alter Rebbe zmanim for CH area.

Etc. etc.

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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #135 on: February 18, 2024, 08:13:35 PM »
It can always have an ad-hoc WiFi network for configuration with any device
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2024, 12:28:27 AM »
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good! ©Rabbi Frand

If you have a device preset with Lakewood area zmanim set with a drop of leeway (example: 20 min before Skiyah to 75 min after for mid Lakewood) should be good for the whole Lakewood area.

Similarly, for CH, with Alter Rebbe zmanim for CH area.

Etc. etc.

The tech-savvy can still do it the old way.
You can bet that if I let perfect be the enemy of the good this project wouldn't exist. As a matter of fact this project is all a precursor to another project of mine.

It can always have an ad-hoc WiFi network for configuration with any device
Agreed.

I think your missing the broader picture here. It's simply to customize existing hardware and software to make it Jewish friendly. Not to reinvent the market or make money  off people. In this regard, the typical iron triangle is somewhat wrong in the sense that cheap is lots of times better then premium.
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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2024, 12:33:55 AM »
I'm a fan of OSS as much as you, but there's definitely a market for someone to sell plug and play hardware at a premium.

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Re: A Jewishily-Smart Plug | What Features Would You Like?
« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2024, 12:41:28 AM »
I'm a fan of OSS as much as you, but there's definitely a market for someone to sell plug and play hardware at a premium.
Yup and there are companies out there the I'm sure have a good idea of what the demand is. I'd guess that most people don't see anything wrong with the typical smart home products and wouldn't pay a premium. The example of automating the magnet on a fridge door is not plug and play to begin with..

Is it just me who doesn't want a motion sensor in my house running on Shabbos even if it's not triggering anything? Maybe, but I'm willing to bet not many people know the difference.
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