Building Collapses in Surfside, FL

[jj1000]

I heard this from CSE volunteers on site how the the Israeli team took a area,dug and almost every time came back with something

Yup

I heard from people on site that the Israeli team based on their 3-D map of the building and collapse were able to pinpoint where specific people would be.

They were amazingly detailed in interviews with families about carpet type, items in the apartments, which rooms family members were sleeping in nights prior, etc.

And as I mentioned they came off shifts confirming they found specific people exactly where they were looking based on those interviews and models.

Really amazing kidush Hashem and incredible help for the families, may they all find comfort.

[yelped]

Opposite when they were on site they did this I heard this from CSE volunteers on site how the the Israeli team took a area,dug and almost every time came back with something while the MD crew was much more general, wasn’t sure if they had the right impression but I think this confirms it

I found him to be a very humble person watching all his interviews. Very impressive.
What’s he supposed to respond to every question, “no comment” ? “MD fire rescue gets all the credit” ?

Don't disagree, and I would have laughed at the way he subtly poked fun at what the Americans were doing until then if it wouldn't be so sad.

[Kobe Bryant]

The final victim of the condo building collapse in Florida has been identified, days after rescuers concluded the painstaking task of removing layer after layer of dangerous debris and pulling out 98 bodies. Estelle Hedaya A"H, an outgoing 54-year-old. was the last victim identified, ending what her relatives described as a torturous four-week wait.

[TimT]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1994667/astounding-story-behind-the-identification-of-surfside-victim-dr-brad-cohen-zl.html

[aygart]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1994667/astounding-story-behind-the-identification-of-surfside-victim-dr-brad-cohen-zl.html

THis last line seems like a stretch, but then again, this is YWN

Thirteen years later, Dr. Cohen, z’l, merited to be brought to Kever Yisrael in the zechus of the tzedaka he gave to support and educate a yasom.

[jj1000]

THis last line seems like a stretch, but then again, this is YWN

Some more detail on it here

https://amp.palmbeachpost.com/amp/8021350002?utm

Two other victims were located with the help of his team back in Israel, Vach said, after he found a tiny plaque that read “Rabbi A. D. Davis.” It was around 4 a.m., Vach recalled, and within 20 minutes, his team had located the rabbi, who was not in the building at the time but told them he knew of a person in the building.

Vach said the rabbi had given the plaque as a gift to Brad Cohen, who lived in unit 1110. "So I know I am close to Brad," Vach said he thought at the time.

On July 7, Vach found Cohen. He also found Cohen’s brother, Gary, who was visiting from out of town.

“You see a lot of death,” Vach said. “Some do not look like human beings. I tried to treat them as people, as souls. Treat them as if they were my parents.”

Seems to me, they only confirmed identification once they matched DNA. But the plaque played a part in knowing where he was initially...

[TimT]

But the plaque played a part in knowing where he was initially...

Wouldn’t the fact his brother was there confirm it ?

[jj1000]

Wouldn’t the fact his brother was there confirm it ?

And that was after the plaque. And before DNA.

[Deal Guy]

Unfortunately, they are still finding additional remains at the secondary site. 

[aygart]

Some more detail on it here
 Seems to me, they only confirmed identification once they matched DNA. But the plaque played a part in knowing where he was initially...

That is a long way from saying that he merited kever yisroel due to the donation. The odds of them identifying the body without the plaque are close to 100%.

[jj1000]

That is a long way from saying that he merited kever yisroel due to the donation. the odds of them identifying the body without the plaque are close to 100%.

I'm agreeing with you...

[aygart]

I'm agreeing with you...

got it

[TimT]

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/07/30/feud-between-mayors-surfside-keeps-on-pushing-for-access-to-site-of-building-collapse-miami-dade-keeps-denying-it

What do they have against this Kilsheimer guy ?

[jj1000]

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/07/30/feud-between-mayors-surfside-keeps-on-pushing-for-access-to-site-of-building-collapse-miami-dade-keeps-denying-it

What do they have against this Kilsheimer guy ?

He's working for the people that may face criminal charges for what happened.

Why should a suspect get to investigate the site before an official investigation is finished by Miami PD and federal investigators?

If someone is suspect in a homicide they don't just get access to a crime scene because the bodies have been recovered.

Not saying anyone is at fault, but that seems to be the logic here.

[TimT]

He's working for the people that may face criminal charges for what happened.

Why should a suspect get to investigate the site before an official investigation is finished by Miami PD and federal investigators?

If someone is suspect in a homicide they don't just get access to a crime scene because the bodies have been recovered.

Not saying anyone is at fault, but that seems to be the logic here.

MD bears no responsibility at all ?

[jj1000]

MD bears no responsibility at all ?

Don't see why they would, all zoning laws are by Surfside.

[TimT]

The whole thing seems strange. Cava tells Burkett he needs to secure the other buildings, he says then I need to know what happened, she says no way. Reminds me of Deblasio/Cuomo.

[MGrossman]

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[The Metzuyan]

Body cam footage from the first responding officers

https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/body-camera-captures-video-of-initial-response-to-surfside-condo-collapse/

[ShmuliT]

Miami: A search and rescue diary
Col. Golan Vach, head of the IDF Home Front Command's search and rescue delegation to the scene of the Surfside tragedy, recalls the chilling, two-week mission at the disaster site. The sleepless nights, the unique operating methods used to locate those trapped under the rubble, and the connection with the victims' families.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/08/06/miami-a-search-and-rescue-diary/