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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2021, 05:58:33 PM »
https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1427225934671790082?s=19

As Chuck Schumer said “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”

Apparently they consider blaming them for your failures "taking them on".

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #163 on: August 16, 2021, 06:05:21 PM »
As Chuck Schumer said “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”

Apparently they consider blaming them for your failures "taking them on".
Messing with the press too

https://www.nytco.com/press/group-statement-sent-to-president-biden-on-behalf-of-the-new-york-times-the-wall-street-journal-and-the-washington-post/
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2021, 06:08:41 PM »
Or they realized President bashing gets views, not only when Trump is in office.
Or maybe instead of just parroting the #fakenews BS they are actually paying attention?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2021, 06:09:28 PM »

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2021, 06:10:32 PM »
@Joe Biden.
Awful speech. I want what he's smoking.
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His speech was aimed at a substantial amount of Americans including Trump fans that are fed up with the endless wars we find ourselves stuck in, he will gain a lot understanding from that group

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2021, 06:12:58 PM »
-100

His speech was aimed at a substantial amount of Americans including Trump fans that are fed up with the endless wars we find ourselves stuck in, he will gain a lot understanding from that group
Exactly why it's a straw man argument. Both Trump and Biden wanted out. The problem is how the US handled the pullout.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #168 on: August 16, 2021, 06:29:41 PM »
I'm starting to miss the Trump days. There would have been articles of impeachment drafted already in addition to calls for invoking the 25th.

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #169 on: August 16, 2021, 06:30:41 PM »
Exactly why it's a straw man argument. Both Trump and Biden wanted out. The problem is how the US handled the pullout.
Wrong.

The problem was how the Afgans handled the pullout.

As Biden said 'you can't force the Afgans to fight their own wars'


I've said it upthread & I'll say it again: this would have happened in 2021, 2031 or 2041.

The blame is squarely on the Afgans, a bunch of backward corrupt cowards.

nothing the US would have done would have made the slightest bit of difference

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #170 on: August 16, 2021, 06:33:57 PM »
that they used rocks is commendable
that they tried to flush them is stupid

Not necessarily commendable if toilet paper was available (reminds me of a famous joke from the early 80s about Anwar Sadat's visit to the Knesset).

I didn't realize when I posted that the tweet he was responding to wasn't posted along. You can see it by clicking on his tweet or here:

(original tweet has a video showing the difficulty the Afghan trainees were having doing jumping jacks.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2021, 06:37:04 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #171 on: August 16, 2021, 06:45:05 PM »
Wrong.

The problem was how the Afgans handled the pullout.

As Biden said 'you can't force the Afgans to fight their own wars'


I've said it upthread & I'll say it again: this would have happened in 2021, 2031 or 2041.

The blame is squarely on the Afgans, a bunch of backward corrupt cowards.

nothing the US would have done would have made the slightest bit of difference
Utter and complete nonsense.

We could have evacuated vulnerable Afghans and Americans before the drawdown.
We could have kept Bagram Air Base for secure evacuations instead of relying on a hard to defend commercial airport.
We could have provided air support against Taliban advances for some period of time to show that we weren't just retreating and running for our lives.
Among so many other failures here.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2021, 06:53:06 PM by Dan »
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #173 on: August 16, 2021, 06:58:19 PM »
Utter and complete nonsense.

We could have evacuated vulnerable Afghans and Americans before the drawdown.
We could have kept Bagram Air Base for secure evacuations instead of relying on a hard to defend commercial airport.
We could have provided air support against Taliban advances for some period of time to show that we weren't just retreating and running for our lives.
Among so many other failures here.

The US military is now tasked with the mission to bomb and destroy assets left behind.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2021, 07:28:19 PM »
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3482499/taliban-reign-of-terror-fighters-kill-list/

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Taliban forces have already pledged to reintroduce the twisted laws which saw them brutalise women and gay people when they ruled Afghanistan in the 90s.

You mean the Embassy in Kabul posting a pride flag on Twitter didn't convince the Taliban? (Shocked Face)

« Last Edit: August 16, 2021, 07:40:44 PM by zh cohen »

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #176 on: August 16, 2021, 07:41:11 PM »
Wrong.

The problem was how the Afgans handled the pullout.

As Biden said 'you can't force the Afgans to fight their own wars'


I've said it upthread & I'll say it again: this would have happened in 2021, 2031 or 2041.

The blame is squarely on the Afgans, a bunch of backward corrupt cowards.

nothing the US would have done would have made the slightest bit of difference
It was left to the Afghans to protect the Americans on their way out? That is their war?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #177 on: August 16, 2021, 07:42:15 PM »
@Joe Biden.
Awful speech. I want what he's smoking.
Wrong.

The problem was how the Afgans handled the pullout.

As Biden said 'you can't force the Afgans to fight their own wars'


I've said it upthread & I'll say it again: this would have happened in 2021, 2031 or 2041.

The blame is squarely on the Afgans, a bunch of backward corrupt cowards.

nothing the US would have done would have made the slightest bit of difference
Sounds like he has some
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2021, 07:42:39 PM »

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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #179 on: August 16, 2021, 07:44:01 PM »