Poll

One year in, what do you think actually happened that day?

A. False-flag operation by the "deep state" to take down Trump
2 (10%)
B. Maybe not a coordinated false-flag, but most of the agitators seem to be feds
3 (15%)
C. Preplanned insurrection by right-wing extremists
2 (10%)
D. Spontaneus riot motivated by Trump's call for violence
5 (25%)
E. Both C&D
6 (30%)
F. An attempt to overturn the fair and legal election of a US President
2 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: January 13, 2022, 12:48:51 AM

Author Topic: 1/6 Fedsurrection?  (Read 34626 times)

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #140 on: January 07, 2022, 10:59:46 AM »


What is your view on the JFK assassination?  :)
funny you should bring this up :))

Another conspiracy theory I saw somewhere (I don't remember who or where) that this was one of the things Trump was planning to declassify before he was neutered with the 1/6 impeachment threats. (The idea being that the "deep state" Republicans threatened him they'd vote for impeachment if he pardoned Snowden/Assange and declassified things embarrassing to the intelligence community)


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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #141 on: January 07, 2022, 01:14:03 PM »
No it is not plausible no matter how many times you say it.
Well that's your opinion.


You have yet to provide one shread of evidence they were feds/informants.
other than what was shown in the links provided?
I would agree it's unproven, I never claimed it was. But it would explain the suspicious fact pattern I brought evidence for.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #142 on: January 07, 2022, 01:15:18 PM »
Now Mr Plausible.  :)
Is it plausible for them to take that as meaning to go inside and stop the vote?
By your standards I would say it's possible. Just like it is possible you will win the lottery today but not plausible.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #143 on: January 07, 2022, 01:19:41 PM »
You have yet to provide one shread of evidence they were feds/informants.

They are on video instigating the "worst attack on democracy since the civil war" and have yet to be arrested or charged. What more do you need?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #144 on: January 07, 2022, 01:41:10 PM »
They are on video instigating the "worst attack on democracy since the civil war" and have yet to be arrested or charged. What more do you need?
I asked you before and you haven't answered. What law did RE break?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #145 on: January 07, 2022, 01:45:19 PM »
other than what was shown in the links provided?
I would agree it's unproven, I never claimed it was. But it would explain the suspicious fact pattern I brought evidence for.
Wait you have unproven evidence, and you think that makes it plausible? That is too funny.
MTG has unproven evidence that Jews started the CA fires from outer space. So that is plausible? 
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #146 on: January 07, 2022, 01:51:39 PM »
Not for the facts. RE was part of the OK. A rightwing nutcase group. He was egging the people on to Stop The Steal.
You don't need conspiracy theories to see what is right in front of you.

This has been fun. All you have is opinions from these right-wing conspiracy groups. When you have real evidence give me a ping.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #147 on: January 07, 2022, 01:52:06 PM »
Wait you have unproven evidence, and you think that makes it plausible? That is too funny.
MTG has unproven evidence that Jews started the CA fires from outer space. So that is plausible? 
Evidence is not what makes something plausible or not.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #148 on: January 07, 2022, 01:54:54 PM »
Evidence is not what makes something plausible or not.
You have any evidence RE was an FBI agent?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #149 on: January 07, 2022, 01:59:42 PM »
You have any evidence RE was an FBI agent?
No. I didn't even read the conspiracy theories. I never heard of him until now and only what it says here.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #150 on: January 07, 2022, 02:05:11 PM »
No. I didn't even read the conspiracy theories. I never heard of him until now and only what it says here.
Ok fair.

We can play word games all day long but at the end of all that the only thing that has been provided so far is conspiracy theories.

These are the same ones Tucker is trying to push that even FOX distance itself from. Many of the real news people at FOX called him out for.

If you like this type of conspiracy theories, I would suggest you get the National Inquirer.  :)
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #151 on: January 07, 2022, 02:08:50 PM »
Ok fair.

We can play word games all day long but at the end of all that the only thing that has been provided so far is conspiracy theories.

These are the same ones Tucker is trying to push that even FOX distance itself from. Many of the real news people at FOX called him out for.

If you like this type of conspiracy theories, I would suggest you get the National Inquirer.  :)
This I agree with
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #152 on: January 07, 2022, 02:14:58 PM »
What law did RE break?

Trespassing (by crossing the barrier).
Destruction of government property (removing the barrier)
Incitement (by actively encouraging people to "insurect")

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #153 on: January 07, 2022, 02:26:46 PM »
Trespassing (by crossing the barrier).
Thousands crossed the barriers. You want them all arrested for this?
Destruction of government property (removing the barrier)
So moving a barrier is destruction of property? Link to this even happening.
Incitement (by actively encouraging people to "insurect")
He said to peacefully enter the Capital. If that is a crime, I would assume you want Trump arrested also?

You just gave pretzels a bad name with this non-sense.  :)
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #154 on: January 07, 2022, 02:51:17 PM »
I asked you before and you haven't answered. What law did RE break?
So if I understand correctly you're saying you agree that he was a major agitator/instigator, but (unlike the 700? Other people that were charged,) they simply couldn't find anything to charge him with?

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #155 on: January 07, 2022, 03:10:44 PM »


Thousands crossed the barriers. You want them all arrested for this?
how about start with those who took down the barriers?


Link to this even happening.
man, if only somebody would've posted a link here to an article showing the barrier being torn down by people who apparently haven't been charged...



He said to peacefully enter the Capital. If that is a crime, I would assume you want Trump arrested also?
it seems like perhaps there might just be a small difference between being a mile away and saying to go to the capitol, be being right there in front of the police like and saying to get inside...

Or let's put it this way. If you say that there's nothing to charge someone standing right there openly calling for people to break into the capitol, then go for sure you must agree that there's nothing to charge Trump with for calling to go to the capitol even if some people could've interpreted that as meaning to break in.

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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #156 on: January 07, 2022, 03:11:41 PM »
So if I understand correctly you're saying you agree that he was a major agitator/instigator, but (unlike the 700? Other people that were charged,) they simply couldn't find anything to charge him with?
You understand wrong. He was a nobody talking to a small group of people.
He is/was a member of the OK's. They wanted to storm the Capital. Unlike the other OK's he never entered the Capital or was involved in any violence.

I get your conspiracy theory. If you want to take it past that you need real evidence.
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #157 on: January 07, 2022, 03:13:40 PM »
Or let's put it this way. If you say that there's nothing to charge someone standing right there openly calling for people to break into the capitol, then go for sure you must agree that there's nothing to charge Trump with for calling to go to the capitol even if some people could've interpreted that as meaning to break in.
He never said to break into the Capital. He said to go in peacefully. Also wasn't that part the night before, it was dark out?
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #158 on: January 07, 2022, 03:18:48 PM »
Ok I just watched your link again. Part was the night before and part was the same day. I did not see him remove any barriers.

Here is the crazy part. Who is filming him this whole time? Was that the FBI filming their own guy so they can get caught. ROFLMA!!!
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Re: 1/6 Fedsurrection?
« Reply #159 on: January 07, 2022, 03:20:04 PM »


He never said to break into the Capital.
Right, I forgot. Only Trump did.