Is It Ethical?

[Achas Veachas]

are you talking legally?
Why in the world would they be allowed to without explicit permission?

No I am talking ethically. I guess every situation depends on the dynamics of the business and the employer/employee relationship but I would assume most employers would allow their trusted employees to give a small discount here and there.
(as seen in the quote skyguy brought)

[ckmk47]

At Staples today, I had a coupon that brought the price of a ream of paper down to 1 cent. (7.99- $4 rebate - 2.99 coupon)  The coupon said '1 per customer' although the rebate limit is 4.  The cashier automatically scanned it 4 times because of the 4 reams of paper I had in my wagon.
Should I have corrected her and told her the coupon should only be scanned 1 time?
If she had not scanned it more than once, could I tell her to scan it 4 times, since I'm buying 4 reams (she would not have noticed the '1 per customer')?


As I was walking away from the counter with my stuff, I saw someone else buying a ream of paper without a coupon.  I asked my cashier if I could give that customer my coupon.  she let as did his cashier. So he used my coupon, too.  Was that a problem?

[dealfinder85]

At Staples today, I had a coupon that brought the price of a ream of paper down to 1 cent. (7.99- $4 rebate - 2.99 coupon)  The coupon said '1 per customer' although the rebate limit is 4.  The cashier automatically scanned it 4 times because of the 4 reams of paper I had in my wagon.
Should I have corrected her and told her the coupon should only be scanned 1 time?
If she had not scanned it more than once, could I tell her to scan it 4 times, since I'm buying 4 reams (she would not have noticed the '1 per customer')?


As I was walking away from the counter with my stuff, I saw someone else buying a ream of paper without a coupon.  I asked my cashier if I could give that customer my coupon.  she let as did his cashier. So he used my coupon, too.  Was that a problem?

please elaborate on the math done?

[ckmk47]

please elaborate on the math done?

So I did the math wrong  . 
Is that all there is to talk about? 
Is that because it's so obviously right or so obviously wrong?

[dealfinder85]

So I did the math wrong  . 
Is that all there is to talk about? 
Is that because it's so obviously right or so obviously wrong?

these are always sticky situations
bc i imagine had you said to her it says only 1 per customer, she would say dont worry about it.
now she has no right to say that, but as a customer how far do you need to go to give them the extra money. probably easier to rationalize this story since she initiated. and honestly, if you called over the manager, he would probably approve it too and just tell the cashiers not to do that going forward
but thats all speculation
as for giving the coupon away, if it was a popular one in circulars, its probably fine, but if it was a targeted one, maybe i wouldnt do it

[ckmk47]

these are always sticky situations
bc i imagine had you said to her it says only 1 per customer, she would say dont worry about it.
now she has no right to say that, but as a customer how far do you need to go to give them the extra money. probably easier to rationalize this story since she initiated. and honestly, if you called over the manager, he would probably approve it too and just tell the cashiers not to do that going forward
but thats all speculation
as for giving the coupon away, if it was a popular one in circulars, its probably fine, but if it was a targeted one, maybe i wouldnt do it

At a previous Staples visit, a once-per-customer coupon was really only allowed once.  I don't think the cashier or the manager would have let it through.  (I did though.)

[ChaimMoskowitz]

At Staples today, I had a coupon that brought the price of a ream of paper down to 1 cent. (7.99- $4 rebate - 2.99 coupon)  The coupon said '1 per customer' although the rebate limit is 4.  The cashier automatically scanned it 4 times because of the 4 reams of paper I had in my wagon.
Should I have corrected her and told her the coupon should only be scanned 1 time?
If she had not scanned it more than once, could I tell her to scan it 4 times, since I'm buying 4 reams (she would not have noticed the '1 per customer')?


As I was walking away from the counter with my stuff, I saw someone else buying a ream of paper without a coupon.  I asked my cashier if I could give that customer my coupon.  she let as did his cashier. So he used my coupon, too.  Was that a problem?

On my 1-10 scale I give this a 1.5

[avromie7]

On my 1-10 scale I give this a 1.5

-.25

[ckmk47]

 
I guess the verdict here is 'no angst'.

[ChaimMoskowitz]

-.25

Your scale is off. 

[avromie7]

Your scale is off. 

Oh my bad -.5

[Alexsei]

Not really ethics but I once read in a sefer that although taos akum is mutar you do not see a siman brucha in the money

[bigbadmoish]

Not really ethics but I once read in a sefer that although taos akum is mutar you do not see a siman brucha in the money

"a sefer" covers a rathrer broad spectrum... A chumash is a sefer and technically so iis the little pamphlet that comes out in shul every week written by some self proclaimed posek... Care to specify towards which end your sefer falls under?

[thaber]

Not really ethics but I once read in a sefer that although taos akum is mutar you do not see a siman brucha in the money

It's a very famous Beer Hagolah:

ואני כותב זאת לדורות שראיתי רבים גדלו והעשירו מן טעות שהטעו העכו"ם ולא הצליחו וירדו נכסיהם לטמיון ולא הניחו אחריהם ברכה, וכמו שכתב בספר חסידים סימן תתרע"ד: רבים אשר קידשו ה' והחזירו טעויות של עכו"ם בדבר חשוב - גדלו והעשירו והצליחו והניחו יתרם לעולליהם...
[באר הגולה, על שולחן ערוך, חו"מ סימן שמח]

[Alexsei]

It's a very famous Beer Hagolah:

ואני כותב זאת לדורות שראיתי רבים גדלו והעשירו מן טעות שהטעו העכו"ם ולא הצליחו וירדו נכסיהם לטמיון ולא הניחו אחריהם ברכה, וכמו שכתב בספר חסידים סימן תתרע"ד: רבים אשר קידשו ה' והחזירו טעויות של עכו"ם בדבר חשוב - גדלו והעשירו והצליחו והניחו יתרם לעולליהם...
[באר הגולה, על שולחן ערוך, חו"מ סימן שמח]

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[zale]

Not sure if this is the correct thread for this, but here is my question:

I had to arrange a meeting this morning, which included a VIP individual (a "choshuve" yid). This person's agent called me several days ago and told me that this individual has back problems and requires a comfortable chair. As I only had folding chairs available, I figured I will get a comfy office chair from Staples for the meeting, and keep it around for future use.

I went online, ordered one that was on sale for in-store pickup and waited for the confirmation email...which never arrived. Getting antsy, I tried calling the location to see if my order was ready, but there was no answer. (apparently that location's phones were down). To keep this story short, after several hours, (and half hour left to closing) I get a call from some department at Staples that something about my credit card needs to be authorized. I followed authorization protocol, and they told me they released the order for pickup. Unfortunately, there wasn't enough time left for me to go grab one in-store before closing. With the meeting being very early, I borrowed one (shlepped one) from a neighbor.

I decided that it's good to have one around, and so I didn't cancel the order, but strangely, I still never got any confirmation. I called Staples customer service today, and they informed me that the order was never released, and that they don't know whom I spoke to yesterday, but the authorization department is closed on Sundays! (go figure). After putting me through a 20 minute verification process, they finally (FINALLY) confirmed that they released the order.

I feel like I want to push Staples for a further discount on this item. No, I don't feel entitled to anything, but I think this stinks of disorganization. Had I not called back today, I likely would have NEVER known that the order was still on hold, and they would have cancelled the order within three days.

Thoughts?

[lunatic]

I would cancel the order,  if it was me

[avromie7]

Definitely push for more they put you through a mess

[Super Speed]

Definitely push for more they put you through a mess

+1, their very good with compensation IME.

[zale]

I would cancel the order,  if it was me

I know, but I kind of want to have a chair like that around. The thing is, it doesn't have the same value to me as it did yesterday. Yesterday I NEEDED it, today I just kind of want to have it around for future meetings and what not. (Buying a chair "just to have around" is something most people do when they find it on a really, really big discount.)