Now you are putting intentions in my mouth.
If I have an agenda, it is that which I have been writing again and again. We are one nation, we need each other. Nobody exists alone, and the sooner we recognize it, the better. The idea that Kehillas Belz, Shuvu Banim, Allepo, Lakewood, or Chabad don't need the rest of Klal Yisroel and can exist alone is just a way of separating from Klal Yisroel and causing divisions.
Reb Yid, where did I say those were
your intentions? I said the resistance to that
idea in general might be because it
could be used as part of an attack. (I'm tempted to say af dem kop fun der ganev etc, but it could just be lack of reading comprehension or jumping to reply too quickly. vehamayven yavin) You duch came to join an existing discussion.
Anyway if your point is to shlog up "The idea that ... don't need the rest of Klal Yisroel..." then why are you coming to push the taineh that a certain group benefited in the past from being attacked? Let's say they did not benefit from being attacked. Would we now say we don't all need each other? And on the flipside, I can think of a dozen better ways to prove that we all need each other than the chassidim benefiting from attacks.
Or to explain that point in a third oifen, "The idea that ... don't need the rest of Klal Yisroel..." has zero to do with whether
...it is impossible that the hisnagdus contributed anything to the Chassidim.
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