Poll

Percentage of women close to me who regularly drink wines with an alcoholic content higher than 6%.

0%
17 (60.7%)
1-20%
2 (7.1%)
21-30%
0 (0%)
31-40%
1 (3.6%)
41-50%
0 (0%)
Higher than 50%
8 (28.6%)

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Author Topic: Women's Preference for Wine  (Read 2006 times)

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Women's Preference for Wine
« on: March 04, 2023, 03:04:39 PM »
Some women like wine, other's do not. Of the women closest to you, Wife, Mother, daughters, or sisters, please share the percentage of them who appreciate and drink regularly (at least once a month), finer and higher alcoholic wines (over 6%).

For example: If you have a mother, a wife, 3 sisters, and 2 daughters, each one will be around 14%. So if 2 of them fit the bill, it would be 28% of the women close to you.

No, this isn't a scientific study. It's to get a general idea of the wine habits of women in the Frum community.

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2023, 09:04:16 PM »
What does 'closest to you' mean?

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2023, 09:19:17 PM »

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2023, 09:19:34 PM »
What does 'closest to you' mean?
which wife you're closest with?

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2023, 10:23:17 PM »
Since dry wine is mostly an acquired taste and many boys start out by making kiddush on dry wine, often to be like the big ones, naturally there will be a significant difference in men vs women drinking dry wine in the frum community.

(Besides for the Chazal that single woman should refrain from drinking more than one cup..)

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2023, 10:29:34 PM »
(Besides for the Chazal that single woman should refrain from drinking more than one cup..)
This thread might be going in a different direction now…. :-X

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2023, 10:50:54 PM »
This thread might be going in a different direction now…. :-X

Wishful thinking :P  I'd guess most are aware already of that gemara in כתובות.

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2023, 11:08:01 PM »
Some women like wine, other's do not. Of the women closest to you, Wife, Mother, daughters, or sisters, please share the percentage of them who appreciate and drink regularly (at least once a month), finer and higher alcoholic wines (over 6%).

For example: If you have a mother, a wife, 3 sisters, and 2 daughters, each one will be around 14%. So if 2 of them fit the bill, it would be 28% of the women close to you.

No, this isn't a scientific study. It's to get a general idea of the wine habits of women in the Frum community.
Is this a men's only forum?

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2023, 11:13:09 PM »
Good thing there is no sexist overtone here.  ::)
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2023, 11:18:35 PM »
(Besides for the Chazal that single woman should refrain from drinking more than one cup..)
Isn’t it about married women who are not living with their husbands?
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2023, 11:35:06 PM »
I like wine.  Good cabs. And not very dry reds or whites, like Teal Lake Shiraz and Herzog chenin blanc.
My daughters drink a bit when served, although not all their husbands are wine drinkers, so they don't drink often.  Some of my daughters in law are still in the training stage, others we've broken in.
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2023, 11:49:07 PM »
Isn’t it about married women who are not living with their husbands?

Correct, אין בעלה עמה. Could be only married because of חומר אשת איש.

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2023, 02:06:24 AM »
Not a fancy wine drinker and can’t stand such strong tannins. That being said, I’ve never had a better tasting dry red wine than baron herzog Pinot noir. I actually enjoy it, even better than most other Pinot noir’s. No idea why I’m plugging a random wine, and don’t mean to spin this thread off somewhere else 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2023, 02:53:45 AM »
Is this a men's only forum?
no, women can vote and share also.

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2023, 03:59:54 AM »
I hope we are talking preference and not practice. My wife appreciates strong wine. However, during childbearing years, opportunities to do more than sip are few and far between. Surgeon general's warning and all that.
Moreover, I discount my daughters when they aren't old enough to have been given the opportunity to have an opinion.
(My two-year-old boy, on the other hand, turns up his nose at the sip of Moscato for Kiddush/Havdala but will happily drink whatever scraps of 15% dry wine blend that I drink whenever my Moscato needs were miscalculated before Shabbos.)
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2023, 07:43:01 AM »
no, women can vote and share also.
Interesting. The op was all about what does your wife, daughter, sister do....

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2023, 09:18:51 AM »
Interesting. The op was all about what does your wife, daughter, sister do....
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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2023, 09:37:56 AM »
Good thing there is no sexist overtone here.  ::)
Is this sexist too?

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While some may balk at this double standard between man and women, it is inappropriate to dismiss opinions of such poskim without a second thought. In this case it seems reasonable to entertain the possibility that this distinction between men and women is at least partially based on physiological differences that still exist today. There are a plethora of studies indicating that women have a lower alcohol tolerance than men – meaning that the average woman gets drunk twice as fast as the average man, and overindulgence can pose a more significant threat to women’s health. (For example, see:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23500890, https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/moderate-drinking.htm, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17159008, https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199001113220205)

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2023, 09:42:18 AM »
lets not forget, back in the day the drink of the house was wine, not apple or orange juice.
things changed alot since production commercialized

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Re: Women's Preference for Wine
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2023, 09:47:24 AM »
lets not forget, back in the day the drink of the house was wine, not apple or orange juice.
things changed alot since production commercialized
Do you know what it tasted like?
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