Israel vs. Iran And Proxies: War Discussion Master Thread

[CountValentine]

Israel can't even give a hard number from the attacks 4 weeks ago on their own soil.

We had numbers right away. As expected they kept going up as more was known.

[JMHO]

We had numbers right away. As expect they keep going up as more was known.

The hostage number actually ticked down one yesterday!

[CountValentine]

The hostage number actually ticked down one yesterday!

No one (sane person) is claiming Israel is making these numbers up.
PR is also part of the war they are fighting. I want to see them win that part also.

[Dan]

We had numbers right away. As expected they kept going up as more was known.

Because it was on Israeli soil.
How would they get accurate numbers on Gazan soil?

Going in circles here...

[CountValentine]

13 D senators (that's a lot) are now calling for a pause. This call is only going to grow.

[CountValentine]

How would they get accurate numbers on Gazan soil?

They make calculations for their strikes. They have a good estimate.

[yelped]

13 D senators (that's a lot) are now calling for a pause. This call is only going to grow.

Only due to MSM amplifying the voice of the Jew haters. Without the media the Palestinian issue would have been solved 45 years ago.

[Sammy82]

They make calculations for their strikes. They have a good estimate.

If they over estimate, they're shooting themselves in the foot. If they underestimate, theyy leaving the door open to be 'proven' liars. No clear answer. So let them do what they think is their best option.

[CountValentine]

Only due to MSM amplifying the voice of the Jew haters. Without the media the Palestinian issue would have been solve 45 years ago.

If you watch the video I posted it makes good points for all sides. One point he made is the only time you really hear about Palestine is when there is a terrorist attack. Other than that, no one cares about them.

[CountValentine]

If they over estimate, they're shooting themselves in the foot. If they underestimate, theyy leaving the door open to be 'proven' liars. No clear answer. So let them do what they think is their best option.

It looks like they are shooting themselves in the foot by remaining silent. Someone will fill that vacuum. Time will tell.

[aygart]

Wouldn't you agree they are going to report numbers?
Israel saying, they are fake, but we don't have any does not help.

What does that have to do with proper attribution to the known liars?

[CountValentine]

What does that have to do with proper attribution to the known liars?

Let me ask Trump. 
Sorry was way too easy!

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1720498500125835532

[dovy2]

I think it's time for Israel to stop the PR game.
The minds of the public are already set.
There aren't really any "undecided voters" around who's opinion will change when a certain video gets explained or not.
Therefore, Israel should just ignore any media, stop taking interviews, turn off Internet Gaza, and journalists in northern Gaza should be expelled.
The world will cry a bit, but eventually stop (when was the last time a newspaper reported that Russia doesn't allow the press watching their front or battles with Ukraine).
Those who are pro-Israel will stay that way and those who hate will continue hating regardless of the effort.

[AsherO]

Therefore, Israel should just ignore any media, stop taking interviews, turn off Internet Gaza, and journalists in northern Gaza should be expelled.

I don’t think you and Israel see things from the same perspective, but even if they did, they don’t control Northern Gaza so expelling journalists right now isn’t realistic. Also keep in mind that many “journalists” are Gazan freelancers, where exactly are you expelling them to?

[Dan]

To get more hostages released.

Mark Regev just told Wolf they'd be happy to allow for a pause, if Hamas agrees to release hostages.

I can't understand where the US position is coming from.

[CountValentine]

I can't understand where the US position is coming from.

I think the US position is a pause will help the hostage negotiations.
Also, what any of them say in public I wouldn't take as gospel. I thought Israel's position was ALL hostages?

[CountValentine]

I think it's time for Israel to stop the PR game.
The minds of the public are already set.
There aren't really any "undecided voters" around who's opinion will change when a certain video gets explained or not.
Therefore, Israel should just ignore any media, stop taking interviews, turn off Internet Gaza, and journalists in northern Gaza should be expelled.
The world will cry a bit, but eventually stop (when was the last time a newspaper reported that Russia doesn't allow the press watching their front or battles with Ukraine).
Those who are pro-Israel will stay that way and those who hate will continue hating regardless of the effort.

The voices against Israel will keep growing. Then need to combat the PR out there.

[CountValentine]

This needs to be countered because that is what the world is seeing.

[CountValentine]

Wonder if this is accurate.

How Israel shot down a ballistic missile in space for the first time
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-israel-shot-down-a-ballistic-missile-in-space-for-the-first-time/ar-AA1jonof?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=97eabe67ae344c3abccf713c59bab19e&ei=8