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davidrotts63 · « **Reply #2920 on:** February 09, 2018, 01:42:30 PM »

Anyone adding MSFT on sale?

TBD · « **Reply #2921 on:** February 09, 2018, 01:45:39 PM »

Sure. but if you expect it to go up 30-50% in next 6 months because of earnings which is $1700-$2000 a share it was worth buying 2 days ago also as nobody knows when the dip is coming and it could of gone up to $1700 and than dip to $1500 so you would of lost the gain... point is that if you believe in its huge upside than need to have guts to say BUY eeven when its going up up up without a dip

ExGingi · « **Reply #2922 on:** February 09, 2018, 01:48:12 PM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on February 09, 2018, 01:42:30 PM

Anyone adding MSFT on sale?

Not enough of a "sale" to pull the trigger IMHO. I would take a second look once dividend yield goes above 3%.

TBD · « **Reply #2923 on:** February 09, 2018, 01:49:20 PM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on February 09, 2018, 01:37:25 PM

And 5 years ago it was a quarter of the price.... Point is its been steady growth all along, and we can assume it'll continue, a week ago it would have been smart to buy to, but now it's on sale.

Just remeber that assuming growth will continue doesnt support the price because if growth is moderating just a bit than p/e multiples will freefall and even with much higher profit price will still be lower.
and remeber they own already 43% of ecommerce market share and dont expect them to own 70% because than government will brake up monopol.
But.. tey still have alot of room from the brick and mortar stores. How much?

?? Million dollar question

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2924 on:** February 09, 2018, 01:58:12 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 01:45:39 PM

Sure. but if you expect it to go up 30-50% in next 6 months because of earnings which is $1700-$2000 a share it was worth buying 2 days ago also as nobody knows when the dip is coming and it could of gone up to $1700 and than dip to $1500 so you would of lost the gain... point is that if you believe in its huge upside than need to have guts to say BUY eeven when its going up up up without a dip

Huh??
When you shop for a car you don’t check around who can give you the best price for the make and model you want?
I’m sure you do!!
But why??
If you believe the type of car you settled for is a good car and you find great value in it, why not just buy it from the first dealer you bump into without comparing prices?? 🧐

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #2925 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:03:19 PM »

Quote from: Ephraimh on February 09, 2018, 01:58:12 PM

Huh??
When you shop for a car you don’t check around who can give you the best price for the make and model you want?
I’m sure you do!!
But why??
If you believe the type of car you settled for is a good car and you find great value in it, why not just buy it from the first dealer you bump into without comparing prices?? 🧐

Don't trade stocks like you buy a car.

TBD · « **Reply #2926 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:04:18 PM »

Again I didnt say you shouldnt buy it now... just that if the blowout report from Amazon put you the value of a share by $1900 in 6 months from now than on Feb 2 when amzn price was $142in 6 months from now it wul9 after the bombshell earnings post that its a great investment since in 6 months it will be $1900

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2927 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:04:51 PM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on February 09, 2018, 02:03:19 PM

Don't trade stocks like you buy a car.

But do invest in stocks like you buy a car.

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2928 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:09:48 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 02:04:18 PM

Again I didnt say you shouldnt buy it now... just that if the blowout report from Amazon put you the value of a share by $1900 in 6 months from now than on Feb 2 when amzn price was $142in 6 months from now it wul9 after the bombshell earnings post that its a great investment since in 6 months it will be $1900

I guess there are 2 types of investors, those that like to buy at highs and dips and those who only like to buy on dips, I consider myself in the second camp, and do the math, tell me who gets a greater ROI.

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #2929 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:16:29 PM »

Quote from: Ephraimh on February 09, 2018, 02:09:48 PM

I guess there are 2 types of investors, those that like to buy at highs and dips and those who only like to buy on dips, I consider myself in the second camp, and do the math, tell me who gets a greater ROI.

Really depends on your skills

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2930 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:18:20 PM »

Quote from: davidrotts63 on February 09, 2018, 02:16:29 PM

Really depends on your skills

Rather on patience and persistence than skill, but ok.

TBD · « **Reply #2931 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Ephraimh on February 09, 2018, 02:09:48 PM

I guess there are 2 types of investors, those that like to buy at highs and dips and those who only like to buy on dips, I consider myself in the second camp, and do the math, tell me who gets a greater ROI.

Sure those who buy on highs and dips get a much greater ROI. those who buy only on dips lost out the whole market gain of past 2 years

TBD · « **Reply #2932 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:43:26 PM »

A "VALUE" investor doesnt buy by overvalued stocks by Dips... He always buys "UNDERVALUED" stocks

TBD · « **Reply #2933 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:43:58 PM »

Quote from: Ephraimh on February 09, 2018, 02:18:20 PM

Rather on patience and persistence than skill, but ok.

+1

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2934 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:45:53 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 02:39:57 PM

Sure those who buy on highs and dips get a much greater ROI. those who buy only on dips lost out the whole market gain of past 2 years

You clearly don’t follow individual stock.
The market as a whole didn’t dip much in the last 2 years but the constant rotation in individual stocks and even in sectors sure as hell resulted in dips , amzn for example dipped 10% 6 months ago during a flaming bull market!

davidrotts63 · « **Reply #2935 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:46:19 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 02:43:26 PM

A "VALUE" investor doesnt buy by overvalued stocks by Dips... He always buys "UNDERVALUED" stocks

That was my point a better investor can do it when stocks are growing too

TBD · « **Reply #2936 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:48:51 PM »

100% And thats why if u "believe" that Amazon has a upshoot to $2000 than run in even by $1600 siNce "THE MARKET CAN STAY IRRELEVANT LONGER THAN YOU CAN STAY SOLVENT"

aygart · « **Reply #2937 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:54:45 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 02:43:26 PM

A "VALUE" investor doesnt buy by overvalued stocks by Dips... He always buys "UNDERVALUED" stocks

But during a dip some which had previously not been undervalued can become so.

Ephraimh · « **Reply #2938 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:57:23 PM »

Quote from: thebudgetdeals on February 09, 2018, 02:48:51 PM

100% And thats why if u "believe" that Amazon has a upshoot to $2000 than run in even by $1600 siNce "THE MARKET CAN STAY IRRELEVANT LONGER THAN YOU CAN STAY SOLVENT"

Ok it’s Friday afternoon and I’m just repeating myself. Gs!

Or:

Ok it’s friDay “AFTERNOON” and I’m jUst “repeating” mySElf. Gs!

TBD · « **Reply #2939 on:** February 09, 2018, 02:58:42 PM »

Quote from: aygart on February 09, 2018, 02:54:45 PM

But during a dip some which had previously not been undervalued can become so.

Correct. but a stock that u expect a 50% increase than a 5-7% dip doesnt make it undervalued. and everyone is right that AFTER the dip is here its more worth than before, just that by waiting on a dip to come, you can loose out a lot of gains so if your analysis on an earnings report makes you believe in such a jump in the stock price, by waiting for a dip you have alot to loose