US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[Baruch]

Then you are calling them either incompetent or corrupt, either which is grounds for their impeachment.

I called them that? Chief Justice Roberts accused the majority of that in his dissent quoted above!

[aygart]

I called them that? Chief Justice Roberts accused the majority of that in his dissent quoted above!

with his biased opinion.....

[aygart]

The general rule of thumb is if you agree with a ruling it's justice and if you disagree it's judicial activism.

just like all procedural arguments are insincere.

[good sam]

I called them that? Chief Justice Roberts accused the majority of that in his dissent quoted above!

The interpretivist is wrong because the originalist told me so.

[good sam]

You are confusing ideology with politics. Ideology is someone who feels that international borders should or should not exist. Political is someone who decides that based on the effect borders will have on their party's electoral odds.

Good definition. But you'll concede that Bush v Gore was political.

[Baruch]

You are confusing ideology with politics. Ideology is someone who feels that international borders should or should not exist. Political is someone who decides that based on the effect borders will have on their party's electoral odds.

From Webster:
              Simple Definition of politics: activities that relate to influencing the actions and policies of a government or getting and keeping power in a government.


You are referring to the latter, I am referring to the former.

[ExGingi]

If Trump wins the election, will it show that the Supreme Court needs term limits?

Now that the Supreme Court is an unabashed political institution, (see Bush v. Gore, Obergefell v. Hodges, etc.), it has become too important for lifetime appointments.

Many Conservatives and Republicans would never vote for Trump, and are disgusted by him. But because of the Supreme Court being the most important political institution in the country, and having lifetime appointments, they are forced to vote for him.

There is a flaw in our democracy. Someone can be like by 50% of 1 party, and be disdained by 75% of the electorate, and still win the election because of the Supreme Court.

If Trump wins, and does disastrous damage to the USA, will lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court be reconsidered?

I am starting to here some sounds that bring memories of what someone said quite a while ago. 

And on the "flaw in our democracy" there are actually quite a few of them. Don't ever expect perfection from humans.

I actually think that the presidency of whoever gets elected will be defined by something very different than the current focus points of the campaigns (if there is any focus to talk about altogether). That is one of the reasons I think Trump might be better for this country. As odd as it might sound, I think his ability to react and change quickly could be beneficial for handling the unknown situations our country could encounter.

[Baruch]

I am starting to here some sounds that bring memories of what someone said quite a while ago. 

And on the "flaw in our democracy" there are actually quite a few of them. Don't ever expect perfection from humans.

I actually think that the presidency of whoever gets elected will be defined by something very different than the current focus points of the campaigns (if there is any focus to talk about all together altogether). That is one of the reasons I think Trump might be better for this country. As odd as it might sound, I think his ability to react and change quickly could be beneficial for handling the unknown situations our country could encounter.

[Baruch]

Then they'd be angling for a congressional seat, President, etc.

Ban them from all political office

[ExGingi]

SwiftKey on a small screen after a very long day.

[good sam]

Ban them from all political office

All federal judges, right?

[Baruch]

All federal judges, right?

No. supreme court. The court that has governed this country for the past 30 years.

[aygart]

From Webster:
              Simple Definition of politics: activities that relate to influencing the actions and policies of a government or getting and keeping power in a government.


You are referring to the latter, I am referring to the former.

by that definition it is impossible for there to be a decision which is not political since every supreme court ruling relates to influencing the actions and policies of the government.

[Baruch]

by that definition it is impossible for there to be a decision which is not political since every supreme court ruling relates to influencing the actions and policies of the government.

[aygart]

http://nypost.com/2016/09/20/hillarys-coverup-operation-bombshell-e-mails-from-her-it-geeks/

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clinton-gave-state-department-appointments-to-194-donors/article/2602272

[aygart]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/20/upshot/the-error-the-polling-world-rarely-talks-about.html?_r=0

[ShlockDoc]

Who said Supremes aren't supposed to be politically/ideologically/whatever biased?  The President is the one that appoints them, they are a politically appointed position...

[Dan]

[good sam]

It's bigly, not big league.

[Dan]

It's bigly, not big league.

Tell that to Donald?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/761773576101953536