Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 3978836 times)

Freddie · « **Reply #3420 on:** September 28, 2016, 05:59:41 PM »

This conversation is annoying me. Yes, people are that dumb. It's true, Live with it.

*black-eyed ghost emoji*

yuneeq · « **Reply #3421 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:06:35 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 02:25:42 PM

If you would go on national TV and intentionally make a fool of yourself then you're not as smart as I thought.

If you think that lie witness news is representative of American voters, then you're not as smart as I thought you are.

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 04:20:48 PM

Not worried about future potential business contacts, etc, etc?
Those people don't come off as trolling the show.
Have you seen his iPhone release videos? Do you doubt that can fool people as well?

Is there anyone in America that would get fooled? Yes.
Are most of the people playing along, or confused, or over dubbed and cut at the right spot to sound like fools? Yes.

I'd like to see 20 minutes of uncut interviews showing the "reporter" on tape before I believe that it's not mostly staged.

aygart · « **Reply #3422 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:10:34 PM »

Quote from: yoohoo on September 28, 2016, 01:06:14 PM

JUST THE FACTS ... of the two candidates running for president... Only Hillary Clinton was caught lying to congress. Only Hillary Clinton was fired from a job for being unethical.   Only Hillary Clinton deleted 30 some thousand emails after she was ordered to hand them over to the Fed. Only Hillary Clinton had that same computer wiped clean by professionals. Only Hillary Clinton got the rapist of a teenage girl off on rape charges then laughed about it. Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about Benghazi. Only Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about her emails. Only Hillary Clinton lied about being under sniper fire. Only Hillary Clinton lied about lying to the American people. Only Hillary Clinton was involved in " Cash Cow " Only Hillary Clinton has a long list of scandals. Only Hillary Clinton nationally belittled her husband's sexual harassment ( and rape ) accusers. Only Hillary Clinton is a career politician. Only Hillary Clinton will not release her speeches to Goldman Sachs and other banks. Only Hillary Clinton is tied to Monsanto. Only Hillary Clinton was labeled " Extremely careless " about national security by the FBI ! Only Hillary Clinton said she will raise taxes on the middle class. Only Hillary Clinton benefited from the DNC rigging an election ! Only Hillary Clinton had to return stolen items from the White House. Only Hillary Clinton said the Benghazi victims parents where lying. Only Hillary Clinton wants you to vote for her based on her gender. Only Hillary Clinton has no real accomplishments after a lifetime in politics. Only Hillary Clinton has never created any jobs. Only Hillary Clinton has been investigated by the FBI and found to have put national security at risk. Only Hillary Clinton has had two or more movies and several documentaries made about her questionable ethics. Only Hillary Clinton was called "Broomstick one" by the SS. Only Hillary Clinton made congress and others spend millions and millions of tax dollars having hearings and investigating her to find that she lied, that would not have been spent if she would of simply told the truth in the first place ! Fact - all facts ! Only Hillary Clinton regularly cussed out and belittled her SS detail. Only Hillary Clinton Only Hillary Clinton Only Hillary Clinton over and over again. But you are going to vote for her because.... you don't like Donald Trump ? That is insane ! I will never understand how any moral person in good conscience could vote for this woman.

You don't think the Dems can write something like this about Trump or for that matter any candidate about their opponent? Just change what the onlys are.

Shkop · « **Reply #3423 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:18:45 PM »

the video is available here. Not taken down.
The woman is a first class cheater

aygart · « **Reply #3424 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:25:38 PM »

Soon Shkop is going to call me a Hillary supporter.....

JTZ · « **Reply #3425 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:31:27 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 28, 2016, 06:25:38 PM

Soon Shkop is going to call me a Hillary supporter.....

Did you signal him?

aygart · « **Reply #3426 on:** September 28, 2016, 06:32:18 PM »

Quote from: JTZ on September 28, 2016, 06:31:27 PM

Did you signal him?

Well I scratched my nose

Dan · « **Reply #3427 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:07:36 PM »

Preface: I'm not voting for Hillary.

But how am I supposed to vote for a man where we here story after story about how unethical he is? Not saying this particular one, but the guy is just so shady. He speaks to what you want to hear, but you have no idea what he's really going to do. Don't claim that you do, as he has no clue himself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/28/i-sold-trump-100000-worth-of-pianos-then-he-stiffed-me/?postshare=9401475096305300&tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.732c91edc995

ilherman · « **Reply #3428 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:15:24 PM »

And it didn't affect him.... Let this continue...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/FOX_2_Detroit-Mitchell_Poll_of_MI_Press_Clinton_v_Trump_9-28-16.pdf

Sport · « **Reply #3429 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:38:26 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 07:07:36 PM

Preface: I'm not voting for Hillary.

But how am I supposed to vote for a man where we here story after story about how unethical he is? Not saying this particular one, but the guy is just so shady. He speaks to what you want to hear, but you have no idea what he's really going to do. Don't claim that you do, as he has no clue himself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/28/i-sold-trump-100000-worth-of-pianos-then-he-stiffed-me/?postshare=9401475096305300&tid=ss_fb&utm_term=.732c91edc995

Preface: I'm not voting for Trump

Is there any corroborating evidence to that story? Besides you're hearing one side of the story from someone who has all to gain by the publicity.

Dan · « **Reply #3430 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:43:52 PM »

Quote from: Sport on September 28, 2016, 07:38:26 PM

Preface: I'm not voting for Trump

Is there any corroborating evidence to that story? Besides you're hearing one side of the story from someone who has all to gain by the publicity.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

Sport · « **Reply #3431 on:** September 28, 2016, 07:48:34 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 07:43:52 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/

doesn't corroborate his story but I get your point. He's definitely a phony but Im skeptical when stories like this one suddenly arise

aygart · « **Reply #3432 on:** September 28, 2016, 08:03:30 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 07:07:36 PM

Preface: I'm not voting for Hillary.

But how am I supposed to vote for a man where we here story after story about how unethical he is?

Because the only way to not have Hillary as president is to have Trump as president. Voting for him is not a statement saying you approve of him or feel he would be a good president but that he is or at least might be the lesser of two evils

Dan · « **Reply #3433 on:** September 28, 2016, 08:14:02 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 28, 2016, 08:03:30 PM

Because the only way to not have Hillary as president is to have Trump as president. Voting for him is not a statement saying you approve of him or feel he would be a good president but that he is or at least might be the lesser of two evils

But push come to shove when he turns out to be disastrous you'll be the one who helped.
I know Hillary will be a 3/10.
I have no clue if Donald will be a 0 or a 10.

cholent · « **Reply #3434 on:** September 28, 2016, 08:20:21 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 08:14:02 PM

But push come to shove when he turns out to be disastrous you'll be the one who helped.
I know Hillary will be a 3/10.
I have no clue if Donald will be a 0 or a 10.

You can be pretty confident he won't be a 10

aygart · « **Reply #3435 on:** September 28, 2016, 08:20:40 PM »

Quote from: Dan on September 28, 2016, 08:14:02 PM

But push come to shove when he turns out to be disastrous you'll be the one who helped.
I know Hillary will be a 3/10.
I have no clue if Donald will be a 0 or a 10.

There are reasons making him better no matter what.

Hillary can make a long term D majority by legalizing illegals and giving them the right to vote. The odds of that coming from Trump to an extent similar to Hillary are very slim.
TheSupreme Court justices which Trump would be able to get throughwill almost certainly be better
Trump will have checks on his powers from both the Ds and the Rs. The Rs are not going to stick up for him no matter what in the same way the Ds did for O and are already doing for H
The federal bureaucracy will go along with H and continue on their own-see IRS. That is highly unlikely with Trump.
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