Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 4642783 times)

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24440 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:03:18 PM »

Quote from: ilherman on September 27, 2018, 12:00:08 PM

Whats your take away so far if I amy ask?

She is creditable so far but this 5 minute rule sucks. Give the prosecutor an hour straight.

Let3 · « **Reply #24441 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:13:13 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 12:01:47 PM

I have never claimed otherwise.

So you are just ok with the possibility that she may be just making this up for political purposes knowing there is no way she can really be proven wrong?

hvaces42 · « **Reply #24442 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:15:19 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 12:03:18 PM

She is creditable so far but this 5 minute rule sucks. Give the prosecutor an hour straight.

Agreed

Do you think that its unfair to insert 2018 morals and mores into 1970's culture? Do you think it was an assault or is it opportunistic "sellers remorse"?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24443 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Let3 on September 27, 2018, 12:13:13 PM

So you are just ok with the possibility that she may be just making this up for political purposes knowing there is no way she can really be proven wrong?

I not OK with anyone making anything up. That is why an independent investigation is needed. Something I have said over and over from day one.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24444 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:19:11 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on September 27, 2018, 12:15:19 PM

Do you think that its unfair to insert 2018 morals and mores into 1970's culture? Do you think it was an assault or is it opportunistic "sellers remorse"?

Great point that has not been addressed. The parties back then it was common place for girls being groped. I am not justifying it just telling how it was. The issue now is not what happened but did it happen.

For the record, what she has described IMHO is no way an attempted rape.

hvaces42 · « **Reply #24445 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:27:30 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 12:19:11 PM

Great point that has not been addressed. The parties back then it was common place for girls being groped. I am not justifying it just telling how it was. The issue now is not what happened but did it happen.

For the record, what she has described IMHO is no way an attempted rape.

Some good watching on the culture in the 60s and 70s is Good Girls Revolt on Amazon. Shame it was cancelled. It would make him look like a choir boy.

My point which you seem to get is that its unfair to have the liberal PC media judge what went on back then. Then again, Bill Cosby just went to jail for something that happened a million years ago. So there seems to be no statute of limitations on judging conduct of prior generations.

aygart · « **Reply #24446 on:** September 27, 2018, 12:47:51 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 11:25:55 AM

The wise words of a Hannity Kool-Aid drinking women hater!

Ad hominem

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24447 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:37:59 PM »

Quote from: hvaces42 on September 27, 2018, 12:27:30 PM

My point which you seem to get is that its unfair to have the liberal PC media judge what went on back then. Then again, Bill Cosby just went to jail for something that happened a million years ago. So there seems to be no statute of limitations on judging conduct of prior generations.

I get it and agree. The problem is he is saying this behavior never happened. Going to be hard to believe a sports jock like him didn't partake in some of this.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24448 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:38:57 PM »

Had to run to the airport. Missed the last hour. Anything good?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24449 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:40:28 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 26, 2018, 11:09:45 PM

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/26/jockeying-over-evidence-kavanaugh-hearing-842711

Republicans also said they have spoken to a man who believes he had an encounter with Christine Blasey Ford in 1982, not Kavanaugh.

Quote from: aygart on September 27, 2018, 12:47:51 PM

Ad hominem

...still waiting!

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:31:21 PM

Only because you decided that any discussion of the parts that you don't want discuss means that feel what fits your biases to have them saying. Your biases are preventing you from even knowing what people are really saying. That is how biased you are.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:34:26 PM

I know what they are saying. They are blaming the D's for this whole mess. They are saying K is afraid of a fair investigation because it will derail/kill his nomination. Am I missing anything?

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:36:11 PM

You are missing more than you are getting. You need to own up to your biases so you can see past them.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:37:10 PM

What am I missing?

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:38:42 PM

You will not get it until you own up to your biases. Everything he's been very explicit but your biases are pending you from seeing it.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:37:10 PM

What am I missing?

aygart · « **Reply #24450 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:43:23 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 01:40:28 PM

...still waiting!

Quote from: aygart on September 26, 2018, 08:19:17 PM

Thats fine. I am having pity on you and want to leave you a way to avoid answers such as how i showed you changing your tune after being called out.

Looks like you still need the way to avoid answers very badly.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24451 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:47:27 PM »

Quote from: aygart on September 27, 2018, 01:43:23 PM

Looks like you still need the way to avoid answers very badly.

Everyone can see right through your BS and dishonesty. You will see the same post over and over until you answer.

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:31:21 PM

Only because you decided that any discussion of the parts that you don't want discuss means that feel what fits your biases to have them saying. Your biases are preventing you from even knowing what people are really saying. That is how biased you are.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:34:26 PM

I know what they are saying. They are blaming the D's for this whole mess. They are saying K is afraid of a fair investigation because it will derail/kill his nomination. Am I missing anything?

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:36:11 PM

You are missing more than you are getting. You need to own up to your biases so you can see past them.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:37:10 PM

What am I missing?

Quote from: aygart on September 22, 2018, 10:38:42 PM

You will not get it until you own up to your biases. Everything he's been very explicit but your biases are pending you from seeing it.

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 22, 2018, 10:37:10 PM

What am I missing?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24452 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:48:47 PM »

WOW this prosecutor is now turning this political instead of trying to find the truth.

aygart · « **Reply #24453 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:50:49 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 01:47:27 PM

Everyone can see right through your BS and dishonesty. You will see the same post over and over until you answer.

Lol
Enjoy

Yammer · « **Reply #24454 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:53:19 PM »

Can anyone summarize the hearing today?

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24455 on:** September 27, 2018, 01:59:07 PM »

Quote from: Yammer on September 27, 2018, 01:53:19 PM

Can anyone summarize the hearing today?

Only the first hour and just now watching again. The D's praised her for the couarge she has shown and blasted the R's for not having a fair investigation. The prosecutor started off with trying to find the facts she remebered and now turned to all political questions. Very disapoointing.

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24456 on:** September 27, 2018, 02:03:33 PM »

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said the early part of Christine Blasey Ford's testimony in front of the Senate was so far a "disaster" for Republicans because Ford came off as a credible witness.

"Extremely emotional, extremely raw, and extremely credible," Wallace said during a break in the hearing. He added that Ford was "obviously traumatized by an event" and said that "this is a disaster for Republicans."

ChaimMoskowitz · « **Reply #24457 on:** September 27, 2018, 02:16:50 PM »

So we are going to have she said he said with no corroborating witnesses from either side. Now what?

elit · « **Reply #24458 on:** September 27, 2018, 02:18:34 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 02:03:33 PM

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace said the early part of Christine Blasey Ford's testimony in front of the Senate was so far a "disaster" for Republicans because Ford came off as a credible witness.

"Extremely emotional, extremely raw, and extremely credible," Wallace said during a break in the hearing. He added that Ford was "obviously traumatized by an event" and said that "this is a disaster for Republicans."

I agree the Republicans should drop kavenaugh immediately this wont end well for them...

zh cohen · « **Reply #24459 on:** September 27, 2018, 02:19:09 PM »

Quote from: ChaimMoskowitz on September 27, 2018, 02:16:50 PM

So we are going to have she said he said with no cooperating witnesses from either side. Now what?

Do you think Ford was credible when she said she doesn't remember if she gave the Washington Post access to her therapist's notes?

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