Author Topic: US Politics/2016 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread (Read 4642782 times)

aygart · « **Reply #28800 on:** November 26, 2019, 11:48:14 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 26, 2019, 10:02:46 PM

My question is what level are they using? I guess at some point we will find out.

Quote from: aygart on November 26, 2019, 08:32:17 PM

5 - None but whatever they are in the mood of with their openmindedness. This is totally independent of my opinions of politicians.

Even if they use the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt it will be because that is what their strategy dictated.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28801 on:** November 27, 2019, 07:46:52 PM »

This is what happens when you have a scumbag that thinks he is the chosen one running the country.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/three-more-navy-seals-spared-review-after-trumps-intervention/ar-BBXr2Dw?ocid=spartandhp

yesitsme · « **Reply #28802 on:** November 28, 2019, 01:29:20 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 27, 2019, 07:46:52 PM

This is what happens when you have a scumbag that thinks he is the chosen one running the country.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/three-more-navy-seals-spared-review-after-trumps-intervention/ar-BBXr2Dw?ocid=spartandhp

BH

zh cohen · « **Reply #28803 on:** November 29, 2019, 11:19:02 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 26, 2019, 07:19:51 PM

We have not had one of these in a long time.

*****BOMBSHELL ALERT*****
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-knew-of-whistle-blower-complaint-when-he-released-aid-to-ukraine/ar-BBXnHXf?ocid=spartanntp

And yet another "bombshell" turns out to be a dud

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/analysis-why-did-trump-release-ukraine-aid-the-answer-is-simple?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

aygart · « **Reply #28804 on:** November 29, 2019, 11:46:36 AM »

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/sandy_final_redacted.pdf

Starts on pg 41
Between JuIy 19th and JuIy 22nd, including July 22nd, did
Mn. Duffey pnovide you any explanation as to why the Pnesident wanted
to place a hold on Uknaine secunity assistance?
A No.
a Did you ask?
A Yes.
a And what was the response?
A He was not aware of the reason.
a To the best of your recollection, what precisely did he say
to you when you asked for the reason for the President's decision to
place a hold on security assistance?
A That he was not aware.
a He simply said, "I don't know"?
A Yes.a Did he indicate that he was going to try to get more
information as to why the President was placing a hold on security
assistance ?
A I am pausing because I -- there was certainly a desire to
learn more about the rationale.
a Whose desire?
A A desire on the pant of Mike Duffey, myself, and other people
working on this issue. So I want to answer youn question accurately
in terms of saying, that desire was acknowledged.
a A11 night. Did Mn. Duffey say that he was going to try to
get additional information as to the reason fon the hold?
A Yes. He certainly said that if he got additional
information he would share it with us.
a Okay. At any point in time, from the moment that you walked
into the SCIF to anytime in history, has Mn. Duffey even provided to
you a reason why the President wanted to place a hold on security
assistance ?
A I recall in early September an email that attributed the hold
to the President's concern about other counties not contributing mone
to Ukraine.
a What was the date of this email? You said early September.
A I don't recall the specific date.
a Who was the email from?
A Mike Duffey.
a To who?A To me.
a Was anyone else on the email?
A I don't necaIl.
a Do you recall whether this email was before September 9th
on after September 9th?
A Before.
a How do you know that?
A I recall early September, but not the precise date.
a Was thene anything else in this email?
A Not that I recall.
a Was it in response to an email that you had sent?
A No, not that I recall.
a Do you know what prompted this email from Mn. Duffey to you?
If you know.
A I don't know. We have had multiple conversations
throughout -- starting in July and continuing about what the reason
for the hold was.
a WeI1, do you know whether - - did you have any followup
conversations with Mn. Duffey about this email?
A No.
lLt:07 a.m.l
BY MR. MITCHELL:
a Was this the first time that you heard that the hold might
be about some sort of concern that other countries ane not providing
sufficient support to Ukraine?
A We had received information requesting -- sorry. We had
received requests fon additional information on what other counties
were contributing to Ukraine.
a Okay. Did you have any other conversations with Mn. Duffey
following this email in early September about this email or about the
fact
A May I consult with counsel?
a Sure. Let me finish the question, though. 0n about the
substance of the emai1, the fact of the other countries not providing
sufficient assistance?
Discussion off the necond?]
MR. SANDY: I just want to clarify, I do necaIl in early September
that we got requests fon information on what additional countries were
contributing to Ukraine. I would want to be accurate in recollecting
the precise date of the emai1, so I'd like to amend my previous comment
and say, I just don't want to provide something fa1se, because I don't
remember the specific date.
BY MR. MITCHELL:
a Okay. So it may have been before or it may have been after
the 9th of September. You just recall that it was the beginning of

CountValentine · « **Reply #28805 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:42:46 PM »

Quote from: zh cohen on November 29, 2019, 11:19:02 AM

And yet another "bombshell" turns out to be a dud

The question is why did he withhold the aid in the first place?

aygart · « **Reply #28806 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:54:17 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 29, 2019, 03:42:46 PM

The question is why did he withhold the aid in the first place?

I quoted from some sworn testimony.....

CountValentine · « **Reply #28807 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:59:26 PM »

Quote from: aygart on November 29, 2019, 03:54:17 PM

I quoted from some sworn testimony.....

I seen it.

zh cohen · « **Reply #28808 on:** November 30, 2019, 07:13:33 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on November 29, 2019, 03:42:46 PM

The question is why did he withhold the aid in the first place?

But the "bombshell" that you posted doesn't tell us anything about the answer to this question.

CountValentine · « **Reply #28809 on:** November 30, 2019, 07:15:42 PM »

Quote from: zh cohen on November 30, 2019, 07:13:33 PM

But the "bombshell" that you posted doesn't tell us anything about the answer to this question.

You know by now "bombshell alerts" usually don't tell us anything.

Luvisrael · « **Reply #28810 on:** December 02, 2019, 05:30:42 PM »

Miss the good old days when actual important issues were addressed by the candidates.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE

CountValentine · « **Reply #28811 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:39:55 PM »

BREAKING NEWS: Barr disputes IG's finding that FBI was justified in opening 2016 probe, Washington Post reports. More to come.
If it was a witch hunt then our coward president must be the witch?

aygart · « **Reply #28812 on:** December 02, 2019, 07:52:42 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on December 02, 2019, 07:39:55 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Barr disputes IG's finding that FBI was justified in opening 2016 probe, Washington Post reports. More to come.
If it was a witch hunt then our coward president must be the witch?

Did I miss something? When did the IG make this finding?