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Author Topic: The Tamar Epstein Saga  (Read 319905 times)

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1520 on: March 29, 2016, 09:51:18 PM »
Stop coming here and insult DDFers.
To quote a first class nutcase (Trump) - "get him outta here".
That is why he made a new name as well. Someone who goes around insulting people is the same piece of garbage even if people don't know who it is.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1521 on: March 29, 2016, 09:53:10 PM »
Stop coming here and insult DDFers.
To quote a first class nutcase (Trump) - "get him outta here".
Stop being so thin skinned.
And I've actually praised a DDFer in this convo as well (though based on how normal he seems I would think that being a DDFer isn't as critical to his self identity as it to others here).

Also, FTR I know enough of the bigshots here (including some in the thread)  to be qualified to criticize.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1522 on: March 29, 2016, 09:54:36 PM »
Stop being so thin skinned.
And I've actually praised a DDFer in this convo as well (though based on how normal he seems I would think that being a DDFer isn't as critical to his self identity as it to others here).

Also, FTR I know enough of the bigshots here (including some in the thread)  to be qualified to criticize.
No one needs your praised.
Just if you don't like DDFers, get out!
(I feel like Trump  ;D )

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1523 on: March 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM »
That is why he made a new name as well. Someone who goes around insulting people is the same piece of garbage even if people don't know who it is.
The great one has spoken!

But your views on me are automatically biased as in your opinion I've transgressed the cardinal sin of "creating a new username" (whether or not there's any truth to that). The horror!

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1524 on: March 29, 2016, 09:56:11 PM »
No one needs your praised.
Just if you don't like DDFers, get out!
(I feel like Trump  ;D )
If you don't like this thread, get out!

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1525 on: March 29, 2016, 09:57:06 PM »
The great one has spoken!

But your views on me are automatically biased as in your opinion I've transgressed the cardinal sin of "creating a new username" (whether or not there's any truth to that). The horror!
You are simply proving my point. The issue is the reason why. Throwing around insults simply shows that you are not a nice person whether you do it anonymously or not.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1526 on: March 29, 2016, 10:00:57 PM »
And you have serious naïveté issues (as has been seen before). Oh, and you also are never biased and you know everything (how can I have forgotten that?!?).

 No matter what you or your Philly friends say this story is rotten to the core and yes both RSK and his son ain't looking too good. So if you want to keep believing in your little world in which these people can do wrong that's fine but don't expect that others will be as blind as you.

And no I don't know if any specific  rumors but I do know that based on past behaviors it wouldn't surprise me. The people behind this heter acted not only wrongly but also stupidly so I would t put something like this past them right now.
Are you related to the original (current) husband? Or have previous history with Rav Shmuel
Life isn't about checking the boxes. Nobody cares.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1527 on: March 29, 2016, 10:06:35 PM »
Are you related to the original (current) husband? Or have previous history with Rav Shmuel

Further proof that no one cares about what is said here but rather who's saying it.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1528 on: March 29, 2016, 10:08:19 PM »
Further proof that no one cares about what is said here but rather who's saying it.
The same way he wrote about my supposed Philly friends. Besides, HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE AT ALL.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1529 on: March 29, 2016, 10:08:52 PM »
Are you related to the original (current) husband? Or have previous history with Rav Shmuel
Not one bit.
But I have been privy a little to some behind the scenes stuff here (NOT even from the husbabd's side of things) and when people who call themselves tzadikim act like Chicago mobsters it doesn't leave a good impression. :-X

If it looks like duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. No limud zechus here on what went on because the facts don't support that.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1530 on: March 29, 2016, 10:09:59 PM »
If he would be making a point that would be one thing. He didn't. All he did was repeat things already discussed ad nauseam. He came and just started writing rudely to and about everyone. That is exactly why he needed a new username. So he can throw around insults and not be held accountable even within the forum. No other reason. Don't convince yourself otherwise.

Anonymous posters here have added information/news to this thread and didnt just repeat everything said before. But yes let's just focus on the identities of a few anonymous posters because surely their identities are more important than the story itself. Ad nauseum of course.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1531 on: March 29, 2016, 10:10:50 PM »
Further proof that no one cares about what is said here but rather who's saying it.
LOL indeed!
Adios guys! Until next time!

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1532 on: March 29, 2016, 10:11:56 PM »
If you don't like this thread, get out!
I have no problem with the thread. I have a problem with you making fun of all DDFers.

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1533 on: March 29, 2016, 10:12:54 PM »
Further proof that no one cares about what is said here but rather who's saying it.
The same way he wrote about my supposed Philly friends. Besides, HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE AT ALL.
Exactly


Couldn't be further from the truth.
I have always said on this thread that I think the heter was invalid. But, I objected to the way that Rav Shmuel and Rav Nota were being spoken about. Anyone speaking with such vitriol hate I only assume could only come from being nogea badavar
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1534 on: March 29, 2016, 10:13:50 PM »
Anonymous posters here have added information/news to this thread and didnt just repeat everything said before. But yes let's just focus on the identities of a few anonymous posters because surely their identities are more important than the story itself. Ad nauseum of course.
If someone would make a new identity and talk like a mensch I would have no problem and I have discussed with them. The issue is when they do so to their insults even if there is some substance interspersed with it. It also shows that they are blinded by some sort of agenda even when they do write substance.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1535 on: March 29, 2016, 10:14:57 PM »
Exactly


Couldn't be further from the truth.
I have always said on this thread that I think the heter was invalid. But, I objected to the way that Rav Shmuel and Rav Nota were being spoken about. Anyone speaking with such vitriol hate I only assume could only come from being nogea badavar

Frankly I don't care if the husband himself posts here.
If he can successfully defend himself, why should anyone care?
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1536 on: March 29, 2016, 10:15:52 PM »
If someone would make a new identity and talk like a mensch I would have no problem and I have discussed with them. The issue is when they do so to their insults even if there is some substance interspersed with it.
The key point here. That's all I'm asking for.
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1537 on: March 29, 2016, 10:16:04 PM »
Frankly I don't care if the husband himself posts here.
If he can successfully defend himself, why should anyone care?
I agree, just talk like a mensch
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1538 on: March 29, 2016, 10:16:54 PM »
Frankly I don't care if the husband himself posts here.
If he can successfully defend himself, why should anyone care?

Agreed. As long as he identifies himself as such (not because I care about anonymity, but because someone's previous bias makes a difference when they talk)
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I agree, just talk like a mensch
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Re: The Tamar Epstein Saga
« Reply #1539 on: March 29, 2016, 10:18:14 PM »

And you're so right about AJK. People are almost "intimidated" by his "influence" here. It all comes down to the herd mentality that infects blogs like this (and much of the Internet, in fact) that causes people say/think/do what others tell them to.
So you've spent enough time on ddf to understand AJK's influence on ddf .

Also, FTR I know enough of the bigshots here (including some in the thread)  to be qualified to criticize.

And enough time to actually get to know people on ddf
Oh wait-they should actually be more valid because a low post count would mean you haven't wasted hours a day living on this site and so may actually have a brain and use it.
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