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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2280 on: November 27, 2022, 09:28:57 AM »
Is T-Mobile usually okay there?
in my experience

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2281 on: November 28, 2022, 03:51:10 PM »
My filter is finally out for the Tracfone 408DL. This filter is similar to our LG Classic filter and solution. It does support more apps. Our filter is the only one in the market that can not be removed by reflashing the phone. Other filters CAN be removed. Anyone interested in our filter send me a direct email to Koshercellutions@gmail.com

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2282 on: November 28, 2022, 05:14:46 PM »
can anybody help me here, i installed the talk only apps4flip rom on my TCL Flip 2, at random the mouse curser will come on and i can't disable it, trying 3 x the * key does not help, and it also disables the 7 and 9 keys, how can i just get rid of the mouse?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2283 on: November 28, 2022, 05:45:05 PM »
can anybody help me here, i installed the talk only apps4flip rom on my TCL Flip 2, at random the mouse curser will come on and i can't disable it, trying 3 x the * key does not help, and it also disables the 7 and 9 keys, how can i just get rid of the mouse?
try pressing the star under the green talk button.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2284 on: November 29, 2022, 09:55:57 AM »
try pressing the star under the green talk button.
Does not help

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2285 on: November 29, 2022, 10:42:05 AM »
Does not help
use the uninstall command through adb

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2286 on: November 29, 2022, 12:25:42 PM »
use the uninstall command through adb
Can you please give me the exact adb command?

After play around. The star under the send button does not take away the curser. But it allows me to toggle between having use of the 7 and 9  keys. But I would like to uninstall it complete. I have no use of it in this rom.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2287 on: November 29, 2022, 12:30:02 PM »
Can you please give me the exact adb command?

After play around. The star under the send button does not take away the curser. But it allows me to toggle between having use of the 7 and 9  keys. But I would like to uninstall it complete. I have no use of it in this rom.
if you are using webadb then you would start with pm uninstall (package name of the mouse)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2288 on: November 29, 2022, 01:42:07 PM »
can anybody help me here, i installed the talk only apps4flip rom on my TCL Flip 2, at random the mouse curser will come on and i can't disable it, trying 3 x the * key does not help, and it also disables the 7 and 9 keys, how can i just get rid of the mouse?
The favorites key (Star icon) located under the talk/green button activates and deactivates it. Press it once to turn on and once to turn off. After turning off the pointer will remain on the screen for approximately 10 seconds before disappearing. To delete the mouse completely you need to reflash the stock boot.img which can be downloaded from the main TCL Flip thread on apps4flip. If you have the TalkOnly without apps then there is no need to have the mouse (And why did you flash the mouseboot.img?) If you have the one with apps then you need it for Waze.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2289 on: November 29, 2022, 02:16:14 PM »
The favorites key (Star icon) located under the talk/green button activates and deactivates it. Press it once to turn on and once to turn off. After turning off the pointer will remain on the screen for approximately 10 seconds before disappearing. To delete the mouse completely you need to reflash the stock boot.img which can be downloaded from the main TCL Flip thread on apps4flip. If you have the TalkOnly without apps then there is no need to have the mouse (And why did you flash the mouseboot.img?) If you have the one with apps then you need it for Waze.
I initially installed the version that has Waze.l, That’s why I installed the mouse. But I have flashed already 2 different roms without adding the mouse. Is the mouse a separate rom that is installed independently?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2290 on: November 29, 2022, 03:06:13 PM »
I initially installed the version that has Waze.l, That’s why I installed the mouse. But I have flashed already 2 different roms without adding the mouse. Is the mouse a separate rom that is installed independently?
run pm list packages to find the package name of the mouse you have installed

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2291 on: November 29, 2022, 03:34:39 PM »
I initially installed the version that has Waze.l, That’s why I installed the mouse. But I have flashed already 2 different roms without adding the mouse. Is the mouse a separate rom that is installed independently?
The mouse is located in the custom boot.img that is downloaded along side the roms that have apps. If you followed the instructions for installing the Rom with apps you have flashed the boot.img at the same time you flashed the super.img. To get rid of it you need to reflash an unmodified boot.img.
run pm list packages to find the package name of the mouse you have installed
That wont help him as the mouse on these custom Roms is not an app rather its a binary executed on boot.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2292 on: November 29, 2022, 04:35:04 PM »
I have used fastboot flash boot mousev1boot.img to load the mouse.
What is the command to undo this ?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2293 on: November 29, 2022, 05:46:31 PM »
That wont help him as the mouse on these custom Roms is not an app rather its a binary executed on boot.
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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2294 on: November 30, 2022, 06:37:04 AM »
I have used fastboot flash boot mousev1boot.img to load the mouse.
What is the command to undo this ?
Donwload the stock boot.img I linked in my previous post, unzip it, then use fastboot flash boot boot.img

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2295 on: November 30, 2022, 03:46:39 PM »
thanks, it worked, and the phone is still kosher, its still a talk only phone

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2296 on: December 01, 2022, 01:52:24 PM »
Anyone have the LG Classic in stock at MSRP?
Does anyone know stores selling the LG Classic Flip (or even better the Exalt for a normal price) in Passaic or Monsey?
Currently in stock on Tracfone.com $15 (Refurbished)
Hurry because they tend to go quickly...


Edit: Out Of Stock (I may have helped cause that ;) )
« Last Edit: December 01, 2022, 02:27:05 PM by Darth1 »

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2297 on: December 01, 2022, 05:18:03 PM »
Currently in stock on Tracfone.com $15 (Refurbished)
Hurry because they tend to go quickly...


Edit: Out Of Stock (I may have helped cause that ;) )
Got a few  ;)

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2298 on: December 01, 2022, 05:19:05 PM »
Those don't work for Verizon, though - do they?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2299 on: December 01, 2022, 07:56:44 PM »
Currently in stock on Tracfone.com $15 (Refurbished)
Hurry because they tend to go quickly...


Edit: Out Of Stock (I may have helped cause that ;) )
is this better than the tcl go flip?