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List of Many Flip Phones. (No smartphones)
A lot of the descriptions is my opinion.
Feel free to let me know if you differ, or if there is info missing/wrong.
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Alcatel/TCL Go Flip (6)
Alcatel TCL Flip 2, From Tracfone or Amazon
TCL Classic 4058C, Sold on TCL
TCL Classic, From Cricket
TCL Flip Go, From UScellular
TCL Flip Go, From T-Mobile

Probably the successor to the LG Classic. $20 for the Tracfone version. Runs very well.
TAG can Kasher, Also @kosher_cellutions kashers, and there are people working on a free filter as well.

Update (9/22/22): A free talk/text filter is available. Filter with Waze (and maybe more) coming soon!

Not to be confused with the tcl 4056 phones which look the same but run KaiOs and are much buggier.

LG Exalt LTE VN220 – Verizon
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

One of the most popular flip phones. Well-known Brand. No button lag. Overall decent phone.
 No outside screen, awkward shape, delicate, suffers from durability issues
Not sold anymore. Street price is over $400.

LG Classic Flip L125 – Tracfone (DDF Topic)
•   Can be  koshered: Yes
Decent phone from a well-known manufacturer
Successor to the LG Exalt, this phone added an outside screen (!!!) and an SOS button. Camera was downgraded to 2mp from 5, and lost autofocus (think Kyocera Cadence res).  Screen and body were shrunk a little to make it a little less unwieldly to hold . . The street price of $30 is has jumped and it now hovering at about $150.

Compatible Networks;
•   Tracfone (and all Tracfone sub-carriers, like: Net10, Total Wireless, Wing and possibly more)

Koshering services;
•   http://kosherlgclassic.com/ (Talk Only $24.99 or Custom $29.99, strong)
•   http://filterlg.com/ (free, strong, but has limitation READ INSTRUCTIONS)
•   https://www.apps4flip.com/lgclassicflip/ (Remove apps with ADB, no reset protection)
•   Tag, Geder, and Meshumer locations can install a block as well

Probably the best quality phone from all the cheap (you can get it for like $30) phones, but the big limitation is that it's carrier locked to Tracfone carriers and cannot be used with normal Verizon plans or other Verizon MVNOs, Until it has active service for a year two months.

LG Wine LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Can be  koshered: Yes

Same as the LG Exalt LTE but works with ATT 4g. Not compatible with Verizon (small changes  like different messaging app and fm radio) Also not sold. Replaced by the LG Wine 2 LTE

LG Wine 2 LTE (U.S. Cellular)
Not applicable


Kyocera Cadence LTE S2720 & S2720PP
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)
PP Version must be unlocked before using with Verizon Postpaid/Other Networks

Overall solid phone by somewhat reputable brand. Has an outer screen to show show who is calling, but lacks video camera & playback. Camera quality could be better. Durability is pretty good. Software update finally fixed some t9 input issues Overall solid kosherable option. Also not sold by Verizon anymore. Street price of about $250

Kyocera DuraXV LTE E-4610
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (2g, bad reception)

Similar to Kyocera Cadence above but in a slightly bigger, rugged package. And added video playback capability. Great choice if you can find a good one.

Kyocera DuraXV Extreme E-4810
MSRP: $240

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (3g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Successor to the DuraXV above. More rugged, Thicker, Heavier. Now with USB-C!
Message+ Replaced with a slower clunkier messaging app.

Kazuna eTalk
•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

A cheap prepaid phone made by a company that has a Chinese website. Can be purchased for under $40 but must be activated in the prepaid network to work. Has poor reviews but seems to be an okay phone/operating system. Sluggish response to key presses. Cheap build quality


Alcatel Go Flip V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Slow & buggy Verizon phone. Changes back to ABC instead of T9 every time you create a new message, and no way to add words to t9 dictionary. Button presses take a while to register. Poor Quality. Seems to be a bit better than the competition in the "Easy to buy straight from Verizon" category


Orbic Journey V
MSRP: $99

•   Can be  koshered: Yes

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Another no-name brand with a slow buggy phone. Extremely poor quality. Avoid.


Schok Classic Flip
MSRP: $99 Available at Target

•   Can be  koshered: Yes (Tag-No, Meshimer-Yes)

Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

A large, highly compatible flip phone from a company that at least looks like its trying. Finally a viable T-Mobile option. Nice display, Impressive camera, and USB-C  docking/charging. Feels laggy and a bit buggy sometimes. A little bit more smatphone-ish than others as it has a, sometimes convoluted , Google Play store and a Virtual Mouse to input touches on apps. Software updates keep improving the phone so there is hope…

NUU Phone
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
T-Mobile (4g)
Cheap price, cheap quality. Buttons seem to wear out pretty quickly.

Alcatel Go Flip ATT  T-MOBILE
Sorry  don’t have exact models all the iterations of these.
Old version- Horrible. Contacts and calling app broken
New Version Go Flip 3- Big improvement
Has Google maps and assistant, will be removed when koshered though.
There is a cricket version that was advertised on Dansdeals.com already koshered on ebay for $60 seems to be okay.
Many many different iterations of these. Some can be filtered. Some cannot. Most are bad phones.

Coolpad Snap
4g Sprint Flip Phone. Bad Phone. Can’t be koshered

ZTE Cymbal
Different versions for Verizon prepaid and T-Mobile. Phone is Okay, Can’t be koshered, But available to buy already kosher in Lakewood.

Sonim xp3800
Compatible Networks;
Verizon (4g)
ATT (4g)
Unlocked versions available

Great phone, similar to the Kyocera DuraXV series
Can be kashered by TAG

Sunbeam
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)
•   ATT (4g),
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Can be purchased kashered by TAG
Has a very good voice-to-text option @ $5 a month

Ans F30 Kosher
Offered by meshimer
Compatible Networks;
•   Verizon (4g)

Fig Kosher flip
Sold koshered

Nokia 6300 4G GSM
Sold koshered

Compatible Networks;
•   ATT (4g)
•   T-Mobile (4g)

Other niche options you may want to look into, and up and coming:

Keyphone  https://keyphone.tech
Mindphone  https://greentouchstore.com/pages/mind
Light phone ii $350 E-ink phone   https://www.thelightphone.com]T-Mobile
Punkt MP02    https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/

In Short (for most people)

Verizon- Find the Kyocera Cadence or Kyocera DuraXV E-4610
ATT- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/Kyocera Cadence
T-Mobile- Schok /Alcatel Go Flip 3/
Sprint- Get a new service. You’re getting cheap service without a device to use it on

Site that allow you to search based on features and network -
https://dumbphones.pory.app/

Why is there so many garbage phones?
Why are the big brands reluctant to make decent phones?
Why did LG and Kyocera stop making such popular devices? 
Did Verizon ask for cheaper phones to make them more accessible? To make an even bigger profit?
And why can’t we get some normal phones like the old 3g devices? LG Revere, Samsung Gusto, etc. Durable, solid, reliable, NO BUGS! Maybe even… dare I ask for… a qwerty keyboard!
Why do people use sprint if there’s no phones?
What will happen to all the active old sprint 3g devices after T-Mobile/Sprint merger?

Full Disclosure: I currently use an LG OCTANE 3g Verizon Keyboard Phone and I love it. That’s gonna have to change by the end of 2020… but if you put things into perspective, that’s AFTER the November elections. Who knows if Trump will even be president?

I would love if someone knows the answers to some of these questions.

UPDATE: I switched to the Kyocera Cadence and overall, its pretty good.
I also have answers to my questions. To be very brief:
Real operating systems cost $$$$ and no one is willing to put in that much for a basic phone. They all use android (free) Or KaiOS (free and terrible) which dont come readily set up for a flip and have to be "stuffed in". Fulll android+cheapest hardware= Mess
Its hard for small companies to make their own phone due to the massive costs of certification approval and similar.


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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2220 on: October 21, 2022, 12:15:16 PM »
Anyone that can walk me through transferring contacts from an iphone to alcatel flip 2?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2221 on: October 21, 2022, 12:57:25 PM »
Anyone that can walk me through transferring contacts from an iphone to alcatel flip 2?

Find an app that can back your contacts it up as a .VCF then share via SMS to the Alcatel

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2222 on: October 21, 2022, 04:06:23 PM »
Anyone that can walk me through transferring contacts from an iphone to alcatel flip 2?

Can you do share via Bluetooth or store on SIM?

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2223 on: October 22, 2022, 07:31:00 PM »
Can you do share via Bluetooth or store on SIM?
No and No

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2224 on: October 22, 2022, 10:25:20 PM »
Find an app that can back your contacts it up as a .VCF then share via SMS to the Alcatel
Thank you

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2225 on: October 23, 2022, 10:59:29 PM »
Does anyone know whether the Nokia 6300 works on Verizon? I'm seeing conflicting reports online and talking to cell phone stores.

Is there any issue with buying one, putting in my SIM, and seeing what happens?

Service seems fine, but I returned it after trying it out for less than a day. My issues:

1) contact list is limited to 1500.
2) No predictive text - not just for texting, but also makes searching for a contact more difficult, made worse by -
3) Only 9 speed dials.
4) Takes a little while to load contact list

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2226 on: October 23, 2022, 11:38:36 PM »
Service seems fine, but I returned it after trying it out for less than a day. My issues:

1) contact list is limited to 1500.
2) No predictive text - not just for texting, but also makes searching for a contact more difficult, made worse by -
3) Only 9 speed dials.
4) Takes a little while to load contact list
Super super slow phone.

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« Reply #2227 on: October 24, 2022, 10:21:52 AM »
Super super slow phone.

Sigh...I was so hopeful!

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« Reply #2228 on: October 24, 2022, 01:18:24 PM »
Sigh...I was so hopeful!
If you want to state here what you need, I can try to help you find a good phone.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2229 on: October 24, 2022, 01:19:16 PM »
Does anyone know stores selling the LG Classic Flip (or even better the Exalt for a normal price) in Passaic or Monsey?

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« Reply #2230 on: October 24, 2022, 01:22:45 PM »
If you want to state here what you need, I can try to help you find a good phone.

FORM FACTOR: Flip or Bar
SERVICE: VERIZON
PRICE RANGE: open - cheaper is better, but willing to pay a bit more if needed
NEEDED "APPS": Talk and text. If waze is an option so much the better, but far from necessary.

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« Reply #2231 on: October 24, 2022, 04:21:42 PM »
FORM FACTOR: Flip or Bar
SERVICE: VERIZON
PRICE RANGE: open - cheaper is better, but willing to pay a bit more if needed
NEEDED "APPS": Talk and text. If waze is an option so much the better, but far from necessary.

You can get the TCL Flip 2 for $20.
You can then get it kashered at TAG, or do it yourself by following the instructions HERE.
This phone is locked to Tracfone (which owned by Verizon) and is locked to Tracfone. After using this phone for 60 days with Tracfone, they will unlock it on request and you'll be able to transfer it to VZW.

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Re: REVIVE THE FLIP PHONE
« Reply #2232 on: October 24, 2022, 04:41:39 PM »
Does the phone work well? I see it has terrible reviews, though most of them seem to complaining about non-central issues (Google assistant not working?).

How would you compare it to, say, the LG classic or Exalt?

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« Reply #2233 on: October 24, 2022, 05:01:06 PM »
Does the phone work well? I see it has terrible reviews, though most of them seem to complaining about non-central issues (Google assistant not working?).

How would you compare it to, say, the LG classic or Exalt?
I have no experience with the LGs, but when I tested the TCL Flip 2, it seemed to work fine.

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« Reply #2234 on: October 24, 2022, 10:35:11 PM »
How does the Flip 2 compare with the Flip Pro?

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« Reply #2235 on: October 24, 2022, 11:48:42 PM »
Does the phone work well? I see it has terrible reviews, though most of them seem to complaining about non-central issues (Google assistant not working?).

How would you compare it to, say, the LG classic or Exalt?
More similar to the LG classic than the exalt. Ok build quality, button feedback slow at times but not terribly sluggish. (Not sure how well the hardware & software will hold up over time) For $20 great but for a really Excellent phone, try to get a Kyocera DuraXV E4610 (which you can sometimes still find at $150-$250 range)

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« Reply #2236 on: October 25, 2022, 10:33:57 AM »
How does the CATS22 flip compare to the Sunbeam or Fig flip?

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« Reply #2237 on: October 25, 2022, 11:08:05 AM »
More similar to the LG classic than the exalt. Ok build quality, button feedback slow at times but not terribly sluggish. (Not sure how well the hardware & software will hold up over time) For $20 great but for a really Excellent phone, try to get a Kyocera DuraXV E4610 (which you can sometimes still find at $150-$250 range)

Is the 4610 better than the 4810?

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« Reply #2238 on: October 25, 2022, 11:13:34 AM »
Does the phone work well? I see it has terrible reviews, though most of them seem to complaining about non-central issues (Google assistant not working?).

How would you compare it to, say, the LG classic or Exalt?
Coming from a smartphone it's a disaster, it's $20 so I had zero expectations but this isn't the solution.

Phone is consistently slow & buggy.

I'm looking for a flip that can have apps like Google voice & has easy texting

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« Reply #2239 on: October 25, 2022, 11:48:01 AM »
Coming from a smartphone it's a disaster, it's $20 so I had zero expectations but this isn't the solution.

Phone is consistently slow & buggy.

I'm looking for a flip that can have apps like Google voice & has easy texting

Cat S22 is your answer.