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Who Won?

Trump
36 (34.6%)
Biden
25 (24%)
Tie
3 (2.9%)
Neither
29 (27.9%)
Another COVID Death
11 (10.6%)

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #161 on: October 01, 2020, 10:23:45 AM »
1. Who is talking about the election right now? This thread is about the debate.

So how is winning a debate defined, when there are only two sides? Is it about winning or losing within one's base (gaining or losing numbers)? Is it in swaying "undecideds" (are there any left in this country other than @Dan?)
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #162 on: October 01, 2020, 10:26:30 AM »
https://twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1311620496224591872

All republicans need to do is keep on showing this (contrasting it with the current Biden). I think anyone that still wasn't 100% sure would make up their mind on the spot, they are either voting for DJT or for the Bolshevik party machine and Kamala Harris.
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #163 on: October 01, 2020, 10:30:13 AM »
All republicans need to do is keep on showing this (contrasting it with the current Biden). I think anyone that still wasn't 100% sure would make up their mind on the spot, they are either voting for DJT or for the Bolshevik party machine and Kamala Harris.
People with TDS will never vote for T, its those small amount of people that can't decide and most have a problem with T attitude, he can easily point out how biden is a gangster and 3 facer, he's been doing  it all of his political carrier.

Then their are some people that even of they are D will not vote for biden [and not T] if trump can paint an image of biden as a corrupt failed political, socialist and degrading mental capacity.
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #164 on: October 01, 2020, 11:25:54 AM »
I am prepared to give you $1,000,000.

Now please send me just $10,000. After all I just gave you $1,000,000.

Right?

Huh? Please explain how this is in any way similar to what happened

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #165 on: October 01, 2020, 11:49:38 AM »
So how is winning a debate defined, when there are only two sides? Is it about winning or losing within one's base (gaining or losing numbers)? Is it in swaying "undecideds" (are there any left in this country other than @Dan?)
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #166 on: October 01, 2020, 11:54:19 AM »
Huh? Please explain how this is in any way similar to what happened
Ever played baseball with a kid?

You toss him a softball, instead of swinging and getting an easy homerun, he says I am prepared to hit that ball, as it lands at his feet...

Wallace tossed him a soft ball, and he failed to answer it.

We aren't Amelia Bedelia here, when someone asks are you prepared to say something, it is asking you to say it... Not to say you are ready to say it.

Ever checked out at the grocery store? Checkout clerk rings up all your groceries, and asks are you ready to pay, then you stare at him and say yes I am ready, and proceed to tell him how the other grocery store is much worse than this one or whatever other gibberish you want to get into, and you never actually pay, that is moronic, you are being asked to pay, you just pay...
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #167 on: October 01, 2020, 11:56:41 AM »

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #168 on: October 01, 2020, 12:03:47 PM »
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #170 on: October 01, 2020, 12:36:37 PM »
Ever played baseball with a kid?

You toss him a softball, instead of swinging and getting an easy homerun, he says I am prepared to hit that ball, as it lands at his feet...

Wallace tossed him a soft ball, and he failed to answer it.

We aren't Amelia Bedelia here, when someone asks are you prepared to say something, it is asking you to say it... Not to say you are ready to say it.

Ever checked out at the grocery store? Checkout clerk rings up all your groceries, and asks are you ready to pay, then you stare at him and say yes I am ready, and proceed to tell him how the other grocery store is much worse than this one or whatever other gibberish you want to get into, and you never actually pay, that is moronic, you are being asked to pay, you just pay...

That's not at all what happened. He said he was prepared to do it, even asked exactly what he was being asked to say, then he started to say it. But, because he's Trump, he said "stand by" which everyone is blowing up, and then got sidetracked, because he can never string a cohesive sentence together. There is so much you can hammer Trump on. He's a vile, immoral person. But when people harp on things like this, people will then dismiss legitimate crtiticisms.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #171 on: October 01, 2020, 12:51:02 PM »
There's actually someone who acts an autocrat. Hint, he's a democrat.

He chooses who lives and who dies, who can open their business, where and when every person in the state can go or not, who can assemble and who can loot. Has unlimited policing at his disposal to arrest and fine those who don't conform. Best part is that he and his ilk don't bother to live by the rules they set for others in the name of 'safety'.

Hey @Baruch , are you yelling from the rooftops?

https://nypost.com/2020/09/30/its-past-time-to-pull-the-plug-on-andrew-cuomos-dictatorial-pandemic-powers/
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #172 on: October 01, 2020, 12:53:58 PM »
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Yup that is how many reacted to this

William Barr. Everything he does.

And tons of rhetoric.

Where you failed to give any examples of autocratic policies he has implemented.
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #173 on: October 01, 2020, 12:56:35 PM »
Meanwhile this has flipped back to Trump

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/
The polls adjusted their standards since 2016. You follow that too closely. Biden's gonna win, your brain is overweighing a once in a lifetime 2016 fluke. The polls are steady for months already.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #174 on: October 01, 2020, 12:58:41 PM »
The polls adjusted their standards since 2016. You follow that too closely. Biden's gonna win, your brain is overweighing a once in a lifetime 2016 fluke. The polls are steady for months already.

What would you bet that Biden will win?
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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #175 on: October 01, 2020, 01:12:29 PM »
Yup that is how many reacted to this

Where you failed to give any examples of autocratic policies he has implemented.
I honestly don't want to get into a lengthily debate about this on Erev Yom Tov. But his rhetoric which weakens faith in our elections, is the first step to autocracy.

And the way he's handled all things regarding the FBI and Justice department have made a difference in many investigations turning pro himself and his friends and anti his enemies.

Mueller's deputies are all coming out with books now admitting that there were many things they should have done during the Russia investigation, that they didn't investigate out of fear that they'd be fired.

His pardon to Roger Stone for not turning on him.

Firing Comey for "this Russer (Russia) investigation". And after asking him for "loyalty".

Ex-judge appointed to review Michael Flynn case says Trump's 'pressure' led to DOJ reversal https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/11/ex-judge-appointed-review-michael-flynn-case-said-/

This is just a few samples. I gotta go back to building my Sukkah. And I know you will accuse me of running from the argument with the "I'm busy" excuse. But regardless....





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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #176 on: October 01, 2020, 01:13:02 PM »
What would you bet that Biden will win?
$10,000 right now me and you.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #177 on: October 01, 2020, 01:14:54 PM »
Ever played baseball with a kid?

You toss him a softball, instead of swinging and getting an easy homerun, he says I am prepared to hit that ball, as it lands at his feet...

Wallace tossed him a soft ball, and he failed to answer it.

We aren't Amelia Bedelia here, when someone asks are you prepared to say something, it is asking you to say it... Not to say you are ready to say it.

Ever checked out at the grocery store? Checkout clerk rings up all your groceries, and asks are you ready to pay, then you stare at him and say yes I am ready, and proceed to tell him how the other grocery store is much worse than this one or whatever other gibberish you want to get into, and you never actually pay, that is moronic, you are being asked to pay, you just pay...

One thing all your comparisons have in common is that they are about being ready to do something, whereas Trump was being asked to say something (which he did, although in his typical inelegant way). He then pivoted to the issue that is actually current, the fact that that Democrat mayors are allowing left wing violence on the streets.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #178 on: October 01, 2020, 01:52:42 PM »
And the way he's handled all things regarding the FBI and Justice department have made a difference in many investigations turning pro himself and his friends and anti his enemies.

Mueller's deputies are all coming out with books now admitting that there were many things they should have done during the Russia investigation, that they didn't investigate out of fear that they'd be fired.

This is just a few samples. I gotta go back to building my Sukkah. And I know you will accuse me of running from the argument with the "I'm busy" excuse. But regardless....

Wait! What??? President Trump is actually a Russian spy?!
How did I miss that?
Thank you for enlightening me. Just changed my vote.
I wish I too can write a Trump book, I would be able to make millions and retire. Might even be able to bash capitalism in the process.

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Re: Trump Vs Biden, Debates 2020
« Reply #179 on: October 01, 2020, 01:59:05 PM »
Wait! What??? President Trump is actually a Russian spy?!
How did I miss that?
Thank you for enlightening me. Just changed my vote.
I wish I too can write a Trump book, I would be able to make millions and retire. Might even be able to bash capitalism in the process.
I never said he's a Russian spy. I said that they believed they should have explored it more but stopped out of fear of being fired, what they would have found is irrelevant to the conversation.

But, remember this, Bob Woodward wrote that Coats "continued to harbor the secret belief, one that had grown rather than lessened, although unsupported by intelligence proof, that Putin had something on Trump."

"How else to explain the president's behavior?" Woodward wrote. "Coats could see no other explanation."


Dan Coates, a GOP senator and Trump appointed DNI thinks that way. So, even if I would have claimed that, it's not an easily dismissible belief.

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