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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #960 on: August 30, 2021, 08:27:56 AM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 29, 2021, 11:57:41 PM
So we can't blame Biden for leaving a Jew behind and call him an anti-Semite?  ;)
Well, if he wouldn't have left him behind then they wouldn't have needed to get involved :P
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #961 on: August 30, 2021, 08:38:26 AM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 29, 2021, 11:57:41 PM
So we can't blame Biden for leaving a Jew behind and call him an anti-Semite?  ;)

Says who?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #962 on: August 30, 2021, 08:39:28 AM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 30, 2021, 08:38:26 AM
Says who?
I was asking a question. Who's on first?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #963 on: August 30, 2021, 08:54:28 AM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 08:39:28 AM
I was asking a question. Who's on first?

What's on second, and why can't we blame Biden for stuff and call him names?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #964 on: August 30, 2021, 09:06:19 AM »
Quote from: Lurker on August 30, 2021, 08:54:28 AM
What's on second, and why can't we blame Biden for stuff and call him names?
It was a rhetorical question. Of course you can blame him and call him names.
Have you read this thread? Some are more concerned about pushing their political agenda than honoring our fallen.
 
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #965 on: August 30, 2021, 09:38:40 AM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
It was a rhetorical question. Of course you can blame him and call him names.
Have you read this thread? Some are more concerned about pushing their political agenda than honoring our fallen.
 

Way too many of those people all over. Part of why it is important to never join a team
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #966 on: August 30, 2021, 04:43:44 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #968 on: August 30, 2021, 05:27:59 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #969 on: August 30, 2021, 06:22:17 PM »
122k+ evacuated. You might agree with him but you have to give him credit for the massive air-lift. Largest in history?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-reports-more-than-122-500-evacuated-from-afghanistan/vi-AANUhG7?ocid=msedgntp
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #970 on: August 30, 2021, 06:27:17 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 06:22:17 PM
122k+ evacuated. You might agree with him but you have to give him credit for the massive air-lift. Largest in history?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pentagon-reports-more-than-122-500-evacuated-from-afghanistan/vi-AANUhG7?ocid=msedgntp
A. What are the numbers based off?  YTD? Since the commitment to withdraw?
B. They airlifted random Afghans
C. They left some Americans stranded over there.


So yes, give credit for the largest botched airlift in history 👏
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #971 on: August 30, 2021, 06:30:28 PM »
Quote from: Mordyk on August 30, 2021, 06:27:17 PM
A. What are the numbers based off?  YTD? Since the commitment to withdraw?
B. They airlifted random Afghans
C. They left some Americans stranded over there.


So yes, give credit for the largest botched airlift in history 👏
I don't expect to you look at it any differently.

How about him getting credit for ending the longest war? Lets hear that spin?  :)
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #972 on: August 30, 2021, 06:37:00 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 06:30:28 PM
How about him getting credit for ending the longest war?
Is it difficult to retreat from a war with casualties as you're running away?
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #973 on: August 30, 2021, 06:38:43 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #974 on: August 30, 2021, 06:39:56 PM »
This is one of the worst foreign policy **** up in US history.
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #975 on: August 30, 2021, 06:42:53 PM »
Quote from: Dan on August 30, 2021, 06:37:00 PM
Is it difficult to retreat from a war with casualties as you're running away?
He had a timeline and stuck to it. Calling it running away is kind of silly.
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #976 on: August 30, 2021, 06:43:54 PM »
Quote from: Kobe Bryant on August 30, 2021, 06:39:56 PM
This is one of the worst foreign policy **** up in US history.
Lets leave the last admins deal out of this. We are past that.  :P
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #977 on: August 30, 2021, 06:46:15 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
He had a timeline and stuck to it. Calling it running away is kind of silly.
What else do you call leaving hundreds of Americans behind because you couldn't offer them secure passage out?
They have yet to explain why they didn't hold onto Bagram, which was a defensible airport, over using an indefensible commercial airport that cost us 13 service members and made an orderly evacuation impossible.
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #978 on: August 30, 2021, 06:50:34 PM »
Quote from: Dan on August 30, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
They have yet to explain why they didn't hold onto Bagram, which was a defensible airport, over using an indefensible commercial airport that cost us 13 service members and made an orderly evacuation impossible.
He said he took the advice of his military. Don't shoot the messenger.  :)

Nothing is defensible when it comes to terrorist. Both airports would have had mobs of people that were indefensible.
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Re: Afghanistan Falls To The Taliban After US Withdrawal
« Reply #979 on: August 30, 2021, 06:53:04 PM »
Quote from: CountValentine on August 30, 2021, 06:50:34 PM
He said he took the advice of his military.
Which was contradicted by military leaders off the record to the NYT and WSJ. They warned him what would happen and he was not willing to listen.
So no, I don't see any need to credit him for this. It's not hard to wave a white flag.
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