The Lufthansa Anti-Semitism Fiasco In Frankfurt

[AsherO]

The tweet below is as close as Frankfurt Airport’s Twitter came to commenting on the incident:
https://twitter.com/Airport_FRA/status/1523654353399300096

With so many officers called to the gate, it’s possible the airport is also complicit in aiding and abetting (or just standing silently by) as this all unfolded.

[S209]

MSM in Germany is probably more effective in this case than MSM in the US.

To a certain extent, Jews are the Blacks of Germany.

[yochai]

Where did you hear this? The host says otherwise

Read the headline!

[cgr]

“Like this” probably means a camera shoved in somebodies face when they clearly do not wish to be recorded.

Is that true when a crime is being committed as well? I'm sure no burglar consents to being on camera while perpetrating a crime.

[yuneeq]

Read the headline!

Still not seeing it. One of us has to learn Hebrew.

[AsherO]

Where did you hear this? The host says otherwise

The Tweet and the guy in the video say קבוצה or כל הקבוצה

The guy also makes it sound like LH reaccommodated them on other flights later that day, which isn’t at all what happened, as in fact affected passengers were subject to a 24 hour ban

[AsherO]

Is that true when a crime is being committed as well? I'm sure no burglar consents to being on camera while perpetrating a crime.

I have no idea what the law is, was simply trying to interpret the words “like this” vs. [generally] videoing in a public place (in the post I quoted)

[S209]

Is that true when a crime is being committed as well? I'm sure no burglar consents to being on camera while perpetrating a crime.

Section 201a of the German Criminal Code covers laws relating to taking videos and photographs of other people.

It is illegal to, without consent, create or transmit a photograph or video of another person when that person is in a private premises or room that is protected from public view – as this translates to a violation of that person’s intimate privacy.

Also prohibited is using or making public a video or photograph obtained illegally in violation of Section 201a.

German law allows you to make recordings of privately spoken words in instances where it is necessary to defend yourself or another person.

Section 34 of the German Criminal Code defines self-defence to include present danger to life, limb, liberty, honour, property or another legal interest which cannot otherwise be averted. However, individuals are required to weigh the conflicting interests and the degree of danger, in this case, legal interest, against their protected interests.

If the protected interests outweigh the legal interests, they are allowed to act accordingly provided the extent that the act committed is an adequate means to avert the danger.


Source

[Yehuda57]

Airport is a public place.

[cgr]

Thank you!

German law allows you to make recordings of privately spoken words in instances where it is necessary to defend yourself or another person.

Section 34 of the German Criminal Code defines self-defence to include present danger to life, limb, liberty, honour, property or another legal interest which cannot otherwise be averted.

[chff]

It's illegal to record video in a public place like an airport? How is anything on TV news recorded?

Even street view isn't available in Germany (besides one initial round)

[AsherO]

Airport is a public place.

Yup. Between that, and the fact that this situation might be a protected interest, I’m not sure this video violates that law.

#IANAL

[chff]

The Tweet and the guy in the video say קבוצה or כל הקבוצה

The guy also makes it sound like LH reaccommodated them on other flights later that day, which isn’t at all what happened, as in fact affected passengers were subject to a 24 hour ban

Even if not subjected to a ban, the 2 agencies involved right away paid out of pocket for new tickets on different airline

[yochai]

Still not seeing it. One of us has to learn Hebrew.

עשרות יהודים חרדים לא הורשו לעלות על טיסת לופטהנזה, אחרי שלטענת החברה סירבו לעטות מסכות. הנוסעים האשימו את החברה באנטישמיות וטענו - רק חלק לא ציית לחוקים, אבל כל הקבוצה הורדה מהמטוס

Translation: Tens of chareidi Jews were denied boarding from a Lufthansa flight after the airline claimed they didn’t comply with mask policy. The travelers blamed the airline with antisemitism, claiming only some didn’t comply but the entire group was removed from the flight.

Do you have a better translation? BTW, I’m a native Israeli

[AsherO]

Even if not subjected to a ban, the 2 agencies involved right away paid out of pocket for new tickets on different airline

What did people do for flights home? My understanding was that at least one pax had return ticket voided because they skipped the LH-BUD leg.

[chff]

What did people do for flights home? My understanding was that at least one pax had return ticket voided because they skipped the LH-BUD leg.

The 2 agencies were all on one way

The individuals are mixed case, some had to buy new, some were also on one ways, some had their tickets reissued for free or just a small fee, and some had to buy new

[AsherO]

עשרות יהודים חרדים לא הורשו לעלות על טיסת לופטהנזה, אחרי שלטענת החברה סירבו לעטות מסכות. הנוסעים האשימו את החברה באנטישמיות וטענו - רק חלק לא ציית לחוקים, אבל כל הקבוצה הורדה מהמטוס

Translation: Tens of chareidi Jews were denied boarding from a Lufthansa flight after the airline claimed they didn’t comply with mask policy. The travelers blamed the airline with antisemitism, claiming only some didn’t comply but the entire group was removed from the flight.

Do you have a better translation? BTW, I’m a native Israeli

I’m not a native Israeli but Hebrew is almost my first language and I’m seeing what you’re seeing. BTW (and I don’t at all mean it condescendingly) our English is better than many native English speakers/Americans.

[TimT]

https://twitter.com/Squilled/status/1523717174673952768

[AsherO]

https://twitter.com/Squilled/status/1523717174673952768

This one’s an inside joke

[yochai]

Israeli journalism makes YWN look professional!
They’re describing everyone as part of one group, crying antisemitism after some didn’t comply with mask mandates. They also say LH claims no one was wearing masks. Just another mask dispute…
They obviously have to mention it was “chareidim” to awaken all commenters to bash us instead of LH.

This is the answer to the DDMS commenters who claim all Jews should live in Israel to avoid hate incidents…

This one is more professional and took word-for-word from DDMS:
https://m.ynet.co.il/articles/r1kq00sii5