these sources were printed in the הערות הממו"ל of the 5752 edition of tzemach tzedek.
next time please check the facts before you throw allegations that a נשיא בישראל believed and told over false facts.
Thank you!
Though I’m bewildered why I’m being accused of “not checking the facts”, when I’ve been asking for information about them, and why absurdly I’m being accused of “making an accusation”, when I’m discussing someone else’s accusation, while referencing the fact that the claim is the manuscript supports it, and requested more information about it.
Touché?
yes, you are being accused of somehow being able to research all the sources you brought, while not being able to open up a Tzemach Tzedek and see what the publisher has to say about it.
Actually, I made the statement to instigate this conversation to see if I could get the hard information I was seeking, and patiently bided my time until somebody bit 
You can label it how you want, but I doubt the manuscripts which I’m very excited to learn more about, would have been produced another way. (Though I agree I may have overstepped a bit)
Again, I did not *decide* it’s valid. I wanted to know more about the manuscripts which I had tried hard to find to no avail.
the issue with all the above is that all you needed to do was open up a tzemach tzedek and look in the הערות המו"ל, were you would find the reference to the above manuscript, which (as i posted) are available online for whoever wants.
that makes the statement that "I wanted to know more about the manuscripts which I had tried hard to find to no avail." very hard to understand.
it was also dealt with by Rabbi SHD"B Levin in his book "תולדות חב"ד ברוסיא הצארית" where in addition to the manuscripts referenced to in the back of the Tzemach Tzedek, he also brings a copy of the כתב יד קודש of the Tzemach Tzedek which came to the Rebbe's Library after the printing in 5752.
https://chabadlibrary.org/books/arum/chabad-russia-czarit/5/index.htmpage 132 in "תצלום הספר"
pics 1 is copyists handwriting.
pic 2 is in the כתב יד קודש of the tzemach tzedek.
P.S. none of the above sources (and I repeat, NONE!) are obscure and need to be dug up, they are all readily available online (as referenced by all the posted links) to anyone who puts in even a minimal amount of effort.
Fair enough!
“They” though was referring to קהת though at that point in the conversation, I’d word it differently when directly talking about Gedolim.
Lets be clear: saying that the 5709 version is a forgery is pointing a accusing finger at the chief editor of Kehos at the time =the Rebbe, who did so at the behest of the Previous Rebbe.
When you start a conversation with the claim that a נשיא בישראל lied, and when forced to face the fact that it is a baseless accusation purported by מחרחרי ריב, that has been proven wrong, time and time again, with all the manuscripts, including later on the original (!), and that with even a minimal (!) amount of research you could have discovered all this on your own,
to then say
Emotions are getting high.
I sincerely apologize for the way I started this conversation. I do not trust myself to focus purely on substance in the face of personal attack, however warranted, and as such cannot continue this conversation at the point it is.
is just wrong.
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