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Who will win the debate on 9/10?

Trump
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Harris
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Draw
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #120 on: June 30, 2024, 11:07:03 AM »
Crazy that he’s even on the ballot then. It’s like voting to take your vote out of the equation. Maybe a nice way to signal you want neither candidate to be president, though your vote has no say in that matter.

Tell that to @Dan who indicated in the past that he might vote in such a manner and to @CountValentine who says EVERY vote counts.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #121 on: June 30, 2024, 11:27:51 AM »
Crazy that he’s even on the ballot then. It’s like voting to take your vote out of the equation. Maybe a nice way to signal you want neither candidate to be president, though your vote has no say in that matter.
I'd vote, if he's on the ballot.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2024, 02:12:13 PM »
Crazy that he’s even on the ballot then. It’s like voting to take your vote out of the equation. Maybe a nice way to signal you want neither candidate to be president, though your vote has no say in that matter.

If he wins enough votes in the Electoral College to prevent either candidate from getting 270, it goes to Congress and they decide. Still a major stretch for him to expect the House to choose him, but it is technically possible.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #123 on: June 30, 2024, 04:05:22 PM »
No one is talking about how well Trump controlled himself from talking when he wasn't supposed to.

I think everyone excepted to see him blabbing while he's muted and muffled.

I was very impressed by that from him.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #124 on: June 30, 2024, 04:15:22 PM »
No one is talking about how well Trump controlled himself from talking when he wasn't supposed to.

I think everyone excepted to see him blabbing while he's muted and muffled.

I was very impressed by that from him.
Yes!! Said the same.

I saw a clip of Trump asking by a rally, shortly before the debate: "Should I be a tough guy, or be a nice guy, and let him talk"... I guess he decided on the latter. 
If someone has the clip, please share.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #125 on: June 30, 2024, 04:38:26 PM »
There were a couple of times where you were able to see him start talking and stop when he realized nobody heard him.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #127 on: June 30, 2024, 05:37:37 PM »
https://x.com/MattWallace888/status/1807445112244388165


Ummm, I saw this live.

Trump wanted to reply, she was trying to get Jake to wait and let Trump reply. But he didn't see her or Trump... Or he chose to ignore them.

Either way, don't believe Matt Wallace...
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #128 on: June 30, 2024, 05:39:50 PM »
Ummm, I saw this live.

Trump wanted to reply, she was trying to get Jake to wait and let Trump reply. But he didn't see her or Trump... Or he chose to ignore them.

Either way, don't believe Matt Wallace...
Lol
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #129 on: June 30, 2024, 07:11:39 PM »
As someone that didn’t watch any part of the debate but has seen many clips of Biden “showing his age” over the recent years. What happened by the debate that totally changed everything?
Was he really much worse by the debate, than what we’ve all seen?
Was it that the MSM always avoided covering it and now there was nothing they could do?
Or did a memo go out from the higher ups that Biden’s gotta go, so now they’re all talking about it?



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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #130 on: June 30, 2024, 07:21:21 PM »
As someone that didn’t watch any part of the debate but has seen many clips of Biden “showing his age” over the recent years. What happened by the debate that totally changed everything?
Was he really much worse by the debate, than what we’ve all seen?
Was it that the MSM always avoided covering it and now there was nothing they could do?
Or did a memo go out from the higher ups that Biden’s gotta go, so now they’re all talking about it?



1. He prepared for a week, and this was or should have been his absolute peak performance.
2. He was hard to even hear.
3. He was side by side with Trump, which made it a stark contrast.
4. It had some 44,000,000 live viewers via CNN steam and hundreds of millions more views on social media etc. so yes, it got WAY more views than any other gaffe that has received a shrug or excuse until now.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #131 on: June 30, 2024, 07:23:23 PM »
As someone that didn’t watch any part of the debate but has seen many clips of Biden “showing his age” over the recent years. What happened by the debate that totally changed everything?
Was he really much worse by the debate, than what we’ve all seen?
Was it that the MSM always avoided covering it and now there was nothing they could do?
Or did a memo go out from the higher ups that Biden’s gotta go, so now they’re all talking about it?
2 and 3.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #132 on: June 30, 2024, 07:40:42 PM »
1. He prepared for a week, and this was or should have been his absolute peak performance.
2. He was hard to even hear.
3. He was side by side with Trump, which made it a stark contrast.
4. It had some 44,000,000 live viewers via CNN steam and hundreds of millions more views on social media etc. so yes, it got WAY more views than any other gaffe that has received a shrug or excuse until now.

5. The WH said the other clips were all edited or deepfakes. Can't exactly try that excuse here.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #133 on: June 30, 2024, 07:43:48 PM »
1. He prepared for a week, and this was or should have been his absolute peak performance.
2. He was hard to even hear.
3. He was side by side with Trump, which made it a stark contrast.
4. It had some 44,000,000 live viewers via CNN steam and hundreds of millions more views on social media etc. so yes, it got WAY more views than any other gaffe that has received a shrug or excuse until now.
5. The WH said the other clips were all edited or deepfakes. Can't exactly try that excuse here.
6. It was the first time we've had an unfiltered look at him for 90 minutes straight. One could argue that all the other clips we've seen were short and only showing the worst of him, but this was 90 minutes of unfiltered disaster.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #134 on: June 30, 2024, 07:53:13 PM »
1. He prepared for a week, and this was or should have been his absolute peak performance.
2. He was hard to even hear.
3. He was side by side with Trump, which made it a stark contrast.
4. It had some 44,000,000 live viewers via CNN steam and hundreds of millions more views on social media etc. so yes, it got WAY more views than any other gaffe that has received a shrug or excuse until now.
5. The WH said the other clips were all edited or deepfakes. Can't exactly try that excuse here.
6. It was the first time we've had an unfiltered look at him for 90 minutes straight. One could argue that all the other clips we've seen were short and only showing the worst of him, but this was 90 minutes of unfiltered disaster.
7 million, I mean 7. The kitchen table thing, you know, killed Medicaid, and drone drone drone drone, swallow some words, be nonsensenile, oh new word I just made up, cough cough.

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #135 on: June 30, 2024, 08:00:43 PM »
1. He prepared for a week, and this was or should have been his absolute peak performance.
2. He was hard to even hear.
3. He was side by side with Trump, which made it a stark contrast.
4. It had some 44,000,000 live viewers via CNN steam and hundreds of millions more views on social media etc. so yes, it got WAY more views than any other gaffe that has received a shrug or excuse until now.
5. The WH said the other clips were all edited or deepfakes. Can't exactly try that excuse here.
6. It was the first time we've had an unfiltered look at him for 90 minutes straight. One could argue that all the other clips we've seen were short and only showing the worst of him, but this was 90 minutes of unfiltered disaster.
7 million, I mean 7. The kitchen table thing, you know, killed Medicaid, and drone drone drone drone, swallow some words, be nonsensenile, oh new word I just made up, cough cough.
8. Even the media (which usually always sides with Biden), admitted he did a horrible job.
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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #137 on: June 30, 2024, 09:53:12 PM »
https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1807553239111303209

Agree with this 100%

Try putting all conspiracy theories aside and think for a second.
Who has the most to lose if Biden wouldn’t have run for a second term?
Most definitely DR Jill, with his cabinet and administration a very close second. As he is incapable of running a country so they are doing it. They were all hoping that Joe would Coast to a second term as he had the benefit of being and incumbent and has the media on his side and they’d be able to run the country for another 4 years.
Looks like the debate ruined all that, and his backers are starting to jump ship. Since Dr Jill has the most to lose here, she’ll push her hardest for him to stay.


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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #138 on: June 30, 2024, 10:37:26 PM »
Why did they let him debate?

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Re: 2024 Presidential Debates!
« Reply #139 on: June 30, 2024, 10:40:25 PM »
Why did they let him debate?
They figured the stuff they gave him for SOTU would work for the debate. They probably got the dose wrong this time.